Throwing my 0.02 cents...
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> From: Merritt, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: RE: [Juglist] recommendations for free linux-based java IDEs?
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> Just to clear up. Both Eclipse and NetBeans are excellent
> (though I am partial to eclipse), however, they are both
> monster resource hogs. You need at least 256 megs of ram and
> perferable 512 and a decent processor to be comfortable using
> them. Another free option is Redhats Source-Navigator which
> is a bit strange, but quite nice.
>
> SunOne is not free, neither is IDEA. Although IDEA is
> excellent I cannot comment on SunOne as I have not used it.
>
> On a resource constrained box your best bet is probably JDEE
> the Emacs based IDE.
Isn't that ironic, Emacs used to be regarded as a resource hog before Java IDEs came along...
> Its a bit basic as IDEs go
Hmm, not really. Code completion, code wizards, code checking, Ant support, a built-in Java interpreter (really sweet for on-the-fly testing)... Only thing really missing is refactoring support but there are some attempts to add even that. And, of course, GUI design tools :-)
You can also complement it with the many Emacs extension packages out there.
I for one use JDEE plus ECB, the Emacs Code Browser (http://ecb.sourceforge.net/) which gives
the package a definitive IDE "flavor".
JDEE has its own debugger but if you want something more graphical for the interface I highly
recommend JSwat (http://www.bluemarsh.com/java/jswat/). Both tools integrate nicely with Emacs and JDEE.
> and emacs has a steep learning curve,
Another urban legend, given that it has
1) a great help system. You can even ask what a keyboard shortcut will do!
2) a built-in tutorial, hands-on tutorial.
On top of that you can configure pretty much everything, making it behave more like the tools
you are familiar with. For example, check the CUA mode (http://www.cua.dk/emacs.html)
> but once you are over the hump you
> can really fly on laying out code.
That I agree completely! It is amazing how *not* having to use the mouse every five seconds speeds you up.
Regards,
Nascif
> There are a few other good ideas out there that. On
> linux/unix Codeforge isn't bad, its somewhere in the range of
> $75 bucks.
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> In order of my preference:
> Eclipse - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
> NetBeans - http://www.netbeans.org/
> SunOne - http://wwws.sun.com/software/sunone/
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> Hope that helps.
>
> > beyond vi ( :-), i'm looking for recommendations for linux-based
> > java IDEs that i can demo to a bunch of folks who are, this week,
> > taking a java course and are interested in the options under linux.
> >
> > URLs gratefully accepted.
> >
> > rday
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