What I'm wondering is, are there folks who would consider the latter statement _not_ b******t? If so, why? Because ISTM that the many of the Jakarta (and other Apache) tools are pretty damn standard--e.g. Ant, Tomcat, and, for that matter, Struts. Am I missing something?
It depends on your definition of "standard," IMHO. Struts isn't a
standard in the sense that WC3 Recommendations, RFC's, ECMA standards,
the J2EE standard, etc. are standards. However, you could argue that "Struts is the standard java web-based mvc / model-2 framework." Standard in that it's the most widely used and well known, etc.
Ant is certainly the "standard java build tool" in the same sense that you could say "make is the standard Unix / C build tool" also, but Ant also isn't a "standard" in terms of having been "standardized" by some sort of "standardizing body."
Going back to Struts / JSF... JSF being a "standard" now just means that you'll be able to expect any compliant server / environment to implement JSF, and you'll be able to expect it to behave the same way everywhere... whereas with Struts it may or may not be present, and may or may not behave certain ways depending on what version is present.
I'm not sure it really matters though. There seems to be room for both Struts and JSF, and both will probably be around for the forseeable future.
TTYL,
Phillip R.
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