I am reminded of an old Microsoft quote: "De facto is de standard!" Works for them...
David ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Hendrik Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Research Triangle Java User's Group mailing list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:11:37 -0500 >Rich is 100% right: Of course struts is a standard - a de facto standard. > >Even though there are 30+ other webframeworks out there, struts seems to be the one >that is most widely used. And that is what makes it a de facto standard. > >The other way of creating a standard is having an organization arguing about >something for a couple of years and then write a paper, which they call a standard. >Whether the standard is adopted by the industry or not is a different story. > >Bottom line: Whether something is a 'standard' or not, does not matter at all. It's >adoption that counts. > >-hendrik > >> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- >> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Auftrag von Richard O. Hammer >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Marz 2004 09:43 >> An: Research Triangle Java User's Group mailing list. >> Betreff: Re: [Juglist] standards, JCP, Apache >> >> >> Phillip Rhodes wrote: >> > Thomas L Roche wrote: >> >> >> >> What I'm wondering is, are there folks who would consider the latter >> >> statement _not_ b******t? If so, why? Because ISTM that the many of >> >> the Jakarta (and other Apache) tools are pretty damn standard--e.g. >> >> Ant, Tomcat, and, for that matter, Struts. Am I missing something? >> >> >> > I'm not sure it really matters though. There seems to be room >> > for both Struts and JSF, and both will probably be around for >> > the forseeable future. >> >> So we may have standards of two types, those which grow spontaneously >> and are later discovered or proclaimed to be standards, and those >> which are intentionally created as standards from the inception. >> >> Rich Hammer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Juglist mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org _______________________________________________ Juglist mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://trijug.org/mailman/listinfo/juglist_trijug.org
