Don Brady Friday, June 04, 2004 11:07 AM
> I think they have things like that in mind for Linux too eventually.
> Combine with AIX etc. Sun is thinking of combining Linux with
> Solaris too (or open sourcing Solaris).
> We are at only the beginning of many many gambits.
Nope: been the same gambit for, oh, 5k years now ?-)
At 11:42 AM 6/4/2004, acoliver wrote:
>> [IBM] already [has] their own Java.
Don Brady Fri Jun 4 12:12:06 EDT 2004
> Andy, the problem for them is that their own Java cannot be offered
> widely because of the licensing agreement with Sun.
Doesn't that expire soon though? Personally I believe that's what's
driving a lotta this, but that's a whole 'nother thread (about which I
am woefully underinformed) (but when has _that_ ever stopped me :-)
> They just want to control as much as possible of any technology they
> use, and above all else exclude competitors from having control of
> it. Then they will try to find ways to have unique advantages over
> their competitors.
Kenneth Sizer Fri Jun 4 12:19:31 EDT 2004
> ...and this approach to business would stand in contrast to whom???
SAS of course! "No more massages for YOU, young man" :-)
Rayme Jernigan Fri Jun 4 12:25:40 EDT 2004
>> So you could take the view that "the point" of open source Java
>> would be to melt Java into the Linux distros as a commodity, and
>> capture the value that falls out elsewhere. In any event I think
>> the last thing they would do is "fork" the code base... it would
>> drive value away and defeat the purpose of it all.
Don Brady Fri Jun 4 12:39:17 EDT 2004
> All right - we will see what happens.
> I will save all of these threads.
for ... how 'bout a TriJUG pool? Not that we would be GAMBLING, of
course--that would be illegal !-)
But each of us could, e.g., state what we think will be the
{open/closed, forked}ness of Java in, say, [1, 2, 5] years. Then the
TriJUG president, whoever s/he may then be, will, upon the expiration
of each interval, judge who was most correct, and award the winner(s)
... the collective esteem of the TriJUG. (Though folks might have some
bets on the side :-)
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