# Charm Authors

- Avoid symlinks in charm
- Use juju-resources to make offline deployments easier
- Implement a pattern that can be easily unittestable, then write unit tests


# Juju users

- juju-plugins

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:19 PM Charles Butler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> juju upgrade-charm --force, get that iterative action without a
> teardown/redeploy in an error state
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Nick Veitch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I should clarify that the tips on this page are for charm authors -
>> i.e. writing charms.
>>
>> If you have any tips for using Juju, we'd be happy to hear those too
>> though!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 March 2015 at 16:30, Jorge O. Castro <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > We have a best practices guide in the docs, initially it was a brain
>> dump of
>> > what Canonical IS was doing with Juju:
>> >
>> > https://jujucharms.com/docs/authors-charm-best-practice
>> >
>> > However if you look at the history of the page it hasn't been touched
>> in a
>> > long time, and there are tons of new tips and tricks that we have
>> neglected
>> > to put on this page. In many cases we've just added the tip to the
>> > corresponding page in the docs, so the question becomes, do any of you
>> have
>> > any tips/tricks that can help this page be more useful to users?
>> >
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