Hi Stefan,

  Rumors that SkyJUMP included an autocomplete polygon function that
utilized existing common polygon sides were false.  It seems a useful,
though difficult thing to implement when digitizing boundaries, but we
have no plans to implement it since SkyJUMP is primarily focused on
facilities management.

regards,
Larry

On 3/5/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hei Guys,
>
> thank you for your posts/comments and especially Michael for the indept
> analysis of Kosmo!
> So the decision is quite clear: we leave it as it is and will watch if
> Kosmo receives a mature stage.
>
> now to different things:
>
> - I have added a Reverse Line Direction tool to Geometry function..
>
> - @Larry:  I was looking for the autocomplete polygon function in
> SkyJUMP but could not find. How does it work?
>
> yours,
> stefan
>
> Ugo Taddei schrieb:
> > Hi R1,
> >
> > erwan bocher wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I send to u a copy of my answer because I have a problem with the JPP
> >> List.I receive but I can not send.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> R1.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: *erwan bocher* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >> Date: Mar 3, 2007 9:50 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [JPP-Devel] Suggestion by Pedro on changing to Kosmo
> >> To: "List for discussion of JPP development and use."
> >> <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> <mailto:jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Concerning ,SIGLE and my laboratory opinion's. Kosmo has made many
> >> improvements on the JUMP. It is a good work. Nevertheless, I think
> >> that we shouldn't use the code of Kosmo but rather methodology. There
> >> is many dependencies with other projects. For examples :
> >>
> >> - to load dxf files Kosmo uses the work made by the gvSIG friends
> >> - to load raster layers, Kosmo uses also a great gvSIG development
> >> (JGDAL)
> >
> > Agree. I also think that having dependencies to native libs is very bad.
> >
> >>
> >> And in the lib jar folder,  we can see andami, Fmap, GDBMS 0.8.. . .
> >> the bases libraries for the gvSIG GIS (60 jar files).
> >
> > In other words, a mess.
> >
> >>
> >> As said Landon, one of the best things about OpenJUMP is its stability
> >> and I add "the size".
> >> OpenJUMP offers many functionalities with very few libraries dependences.
> >>
> >> I agree with Larry and Landon :
> >> 1. " I would recommend putting off any decision
> >> until there is a mature version of Kosmo."
> >
> > Agree.
> >
> >>
> >> 2. "OpenJUMP was our idea for a common platform or brand that these
> >> different "brands" could use. I don't think I ever imagined building
> >> an OpenJUMP that would fit everyone's specialized needs. I instead
> >> imagined that the different brands would sharea as much code as
> >> possible in the common "core" that would be OpenJUMP."
> >
> > To the point, that is précisément ;-)
> >
> > Au revoir,
> >
> > Ugo
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >> R1.
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------
> >> Ingénieur de recherche
> >> Docteur en géographie,
> >> spécialité géomatique
> >> École Centrale de Nantes
> >> Institut de recherche en sciences et techniques de la ville
> >> http://www.irstv.cnrs.fr/
> >> http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki
> >> <http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki>
> >> http://r1.bocher.free.fr <http://r1.bocher.free.fr/>
> >> http://www.projet-sigle.org <http://www.projet-sigle.org/>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/3/07, *Sunburned Surveyor* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     I haven't had a chance to test drive Kosmo like Larry has, so I
> >>     can't give an objective comments on this idea of "jumping" to
> >>     Kosmo's core. However, I would like to offer some quick thougts, and
> >>     add to some of the things Larry and Stefan mentioned.
> >>          I think we need to remember that one of the best things about
> >>     OpenJUMP is its stability. I don't deny that there seem to be great
> >>     things going on with Kosmo. I was reading over there previous
> >>     message about some of the changes they had made, and I must admit I
> >>     was nearly overwhelmed by all they had done. I think they will
> >>     continue to make rapid progress with a staff of 9 devoted
> >>     developers. I don't think there is any way Stefan and  I, or even
> >>     Vivid Solutions, has the ability to throw that many bodies at
> >>     OpenJUMP improvements.
> >>          However, after recognizing the rapid progress Kosmo will
> >> experience,
> >>     we need to acknowlege some important realities identified in Larry's
> >>     comments. It sounds like development of Kosmo is driven by some very
> >>     specific client/customer requests, and that the organization behind
> >>     Kosmo's development have some very specific ideas of what they would
> >>     like to accomplish.This is an ideal environment to bring about the
> >>     rapid improvements they are planning. They will be focused and won't
> >>     have the burdens that come with a more open community-based
> >>     development process.
> >>          The orignial purpose of the JPP was to encourage
> >> "collaborative" or
> >>     "cooperative" development of  the different JUMP "brands". OpenJUMP
> >>     was our idea for a common platform or brand that these different
> >>     "brands" could use. I don't think I ever imagined building an
> >>     OpenJUMP that would fit everyone's specialized needs. I instead
> >>     imagined that the different brands would sharea as much code as
> >>     possible in the common "core" that would be OpenJUMP. I think we can
> >>     still accomplish this "vision" for OpenJUMP and the JPP by
> >>     judicously choosing the things we would like to integrate from
> >>     Kosmo. They can in turn judicously choose what they would like to
> >>     "take" from us.
> >>          Think of OpenJUMP as the Linux Kernel, and Kosmo as a
> >> distribution
> >>     of Linux like Debian or Red Hat. We want to keep a kernel that can
> >>     be used by a lot of different "distros".
> >>          I need to speak some more about these issues. I hope I can
> >> find time
> >>     later this weekend.
> >>          The Sunburned Surveyor
> >>     On 3/2/07, *Larry Becker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         Hi Stefan,
> >>
> >>         >  > Putting all together it's quite tempting to say: "...why
> >>         don't we simply
> >>         >  > adopt the Core from Kosmo as the OJ Core altogether...?!?".
> >>         >  >
> >>         >  What is your oppinon on that? Pro's & Con's?
> >>         >  (this goes especially to Larry, SIGLE/Erwan, Ugo, Michael and
> >>         the Pirol
> >>
> >>         When you check out Kosmo rc1, I think you'll find that it has
> >> made
> >>         many changes to the basic JUMP interface.  Some are
> >> understandable,
> >>         but others seem to be just gratuitous. From the SkyJUMP
> >>         perspective,
> >>         (small maps, easy to use, many CAD-like editing tools) there
> >> doesn't
> >>         seem to be much to take away.  Others will no doubt be excited
> >>         by the
> >>         heavy weight data sources, and removal of memory bound
> >>         restrictions.
> >>         I'm still going through it, but it looks to still be a work in
> >>         progress compared to OJ.  I would recommend putting off any
> >> decision
> >>         until there is a mature version of Kosmo.
> >>
> >>         regards,
> >>         Larry Becker
> >>
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