Sascha, You made some very good points. Thank you for adding them to our conversation.
Another thing to consider is that OpenJUMP is a very graphics intensive program and the performance gains may be worth the requirement for the newer JRE. I Note: I do want to make sure we don't "upgrade" ourselves out of the JRE available on most Linux distributions. This isn't as much of a problem as it once was, since Java now uses a license that doesn't offend the folks at Debian. I believe 1.6 is availalbe in the Debian "non-free" package repository, but I would have to double check. Sascha wrote: "The original JUMP uses still 1.4 IIRC and I would tend to say this a wise idea if you want to reach customers which are not willing to install a newer JVM (for a number of serious reasons)." What reasons would there be for avoiding the installation of a new JRE? SS P.S. - I believe UDig and some others actually install a JRE with their program. Not that I am a big fan of that idea. On 6/21/07, Sascha L. Teichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi together! > > It's all about market share between 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6. > > I have no concrete numbers, but I think 1.4 has > still a wide basis these days, even if there are newer > version of Java out there. The question you have to answer > is: "Does my product profit from the new features?" > I'm not not talking about syntactical sugar (Generics), > I'm talking about using the larger library and of things > like speed of development, correctness, etc. > > The original JUMP uses still 1.4 IIRC and > I would tend to say this a wise idea if you want > to reach customers which are not willing to install > a newer JVM (for a number of serious reasons). > > OpenJUMP is 1.5 mainly because of some PIROL stuff. > I had a look at it once and I'm not sure if it is > really necessary to do so. I'm tempted to > bring it back to 1.4, because it looks a bit like > they used it only because it is cool to use > Java 5 idioms. (my 2 cents) > > Don't get me wrong. I'm not against progress, but I > keep in mind that not all peoples are geeks, always > willing to have the latest stuff. > > If you write a plug-in keep your customers in view. > If you want to limit yourself go for the newer Java > versions! > > Personally I'm running 1.6 because of the better performance, > but I regularly test against older versions too. > > If I use 1.5+ in project (which I do) then I really mean it. > Then I use annotations which can be done some magic > with, using generics to full extent and I use the larger > library! I do this in new projects (without legacy code) > and belief me: the code looks quiet different compared > to *JUMP code. > > *JUMP is legacy code. The development starts with 1.3 I guess. > We have a lot of constraints which prevents us from refactoring > it in the large. > > I would opt for a more Java 1.4 than 1.5 core. But this is > a matter of decision that can change some day. > > Regards, > Sascha > > > Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: > > Should I avoid using 1.6 in my development for plug-ins and the core? > > > > The Sunburned Surveyor > > > > On 6/21/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Excellent, I want to use generics in my plug-ins to make lists more type > >> safe. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Paul > >> > >> Stefan Steiniger wrote: > >>> at least 1.5 > >>> > >>> at least the nightly built is (necessarily) compiled with java 1.5 > >>> > >>> stefan > >>> > >>> Paul Austin wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Which Java version should we be developing plug-ins to. I notice that > >>>> some of the modules in the core require 1.5 > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > >>>> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > >>>> control of your XML. No limits. 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