Hi,

  I would make a distinction between bugs that reduce usability and
those where a feature is totally non-functional.  If we have features
that are non-functional, they should be fixed immediately or removed.

  However, Uwe makes a good point about non-English speakers having
nowhere to go for support. An email contact is one solution, however
it has the disadvantage of depending on one person to be responsible
for a language.  Perhaps a multilingual web forum would also solve
this problem.  I manage a couple of forums and they are fairly easy to
set up.  I can look for a place to host it if everyone likes the idea.

  I have always thought that we need to encourage more participation
by JUMP users.  Unfortunately, the jump-users list discussions were
dominated early on by developers.  The jump-pilot-devel list has
helped with that problem, but now the jump-users list seems to be
mostly quiet.  I think that most casual users of OpenJump are put off
by the effort it takes to monitor discussion lists, and that they
would be more likely to participate in a forum where they can search
for solutions or post a question (hopefully in their own language).

regards,
Larry Becker

On 8/16/07, Uwe Dalluege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the problem is not to find an bug, the problem is to fix it
> because we all have less time.
>
> The "normal user" can find bugs but I think it is
> a problem for not English-speaken people to report a bug.
>
> So my suggestion:
>
> We need on the OpenJUMP page
> http://openjump.org/wiki/show/HomePage
>
> a link where people can send a mail in
> there national language
> Maybe one e-mail address for each language.
> The person behind this e-mail-address
> test this error, translate it to English and put it to the bug-tracker.
>
> If you like, after my vacation,  I can  take the German-part of this job.
>
> Regards,
>
> Uwe
>
> Stefan Steiniger schrieb:
> > Hei,
> >
> > but in general Larry is right.. we should sarch for testers
> >
> > most of the errors are reported by the same people.
> >
> > stefan
> >
> > Uwe Dalluege schrieb:
> >> Hi Larry,
> >>
> >> you wrote:
> >>
> >>> This (and the problem with Image Layres) raises the question, "Is
> >>> anyone besides the developers testing and reporting bugs?"
> >>
> >> Please have a look at this side:
> >>
> >> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=679906&group_id=118054&func=browse
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Uwe
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Larry Becker schrieb:
> >>> I just found and fixed a problem with the Toggle Visibility Layer Name
> >>> popup menu item.  It was totally nonfunctional.  I wonder how long it
> >>> has been broken.
> >>>
> >>> This (and the problem with Image Layres) raises the question, "Is
> >>> anyone besides the developers testing and reporting bugs?"  We need to
> >>> recruit some testers.  Perhaps an announcement on SourceForge where
> >>> some of the 100 people downloading OpenJump per day might see it.
> >>> Something like:
> >>>
> >>> "Software testers needed on project OpenJump.  All you have to do is
> >>> use OpenJump and report any bugs you find using the SourceForge
> >>> tracker."
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>>
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