Hi,
> Hi,
>   
>>> The problem with Webstart is, that the
>>> classpath is only the jre/lib/deploy.jar. So we cannot load readme.txt
>>> from classpath :-(
>>>       
>> are you sure there is no way for a webstart application to load a file 
>> either from a webserver or from an external archive?
>>     
> Cannot understand why the file could not be in the path (in the jar)
>   
I cannot found a possibility to load such configuration files 
automatically :-( You can only define the JAR's. For the 
default-plugins.xml file i manually download the file to system tmpdir. 
The file location i surrender the "-default-plugins" commandline option. 
This is ok, but the readme.txt wil be loaded from the classpath. As i 
have written above, the classpath of a JWS application is the 
deploy.jar. I think that the deploy.jar handles the classloading stuff 
for a JWS application. This JWS behaviour was new for me too.
>>> In principle we should change both, the loading and the content of the
>>> readme.txt!
>>> 1. There are too many unimportant and not (end)user suitable informations.
>>>       
>> could you name one? some of it might not be needed on a day to day basis but 
>> essentially all of it is enduser information.
>>     
> Agree with Matthias on this point (also agreed with Ede for "one place 
> to maintain
> all the infos").
>   
The "one place to maintain" is an argument, ede.
> Hmm embarassing.
> The about panel mixes nice looking logo + software version on the top,
> with rough text area containing unreadable license information (sorry Ede,
> information is important, just unreadable for most normal people ;-).
> Most information is formal but useless at this point (how to start the
> application) and it does not always fit well the software version (PLUS 
> vs CORE).
>   
This is what I mean.
> I have two suggestions to improve it (but it has a very low priority for 
> me) :
> - let only the logo + version + general license (+ date ?) in the about 
> panel
>    and add a button to call explicitly the readme file which will be 
> opened in its
>    own window
> - html-ize the readme file (so that it can be beautified) and put it in 
> its own tab
>
> What do you think ?
>   
A very good suggestion to split this informations. And the html-ize 
readme is good for external translators. Such as the help for the 
keyboard shortcuts. For better JWS support i would change the loading 
mechanism, so that this files can be loaded from local filesystem or 
from a webserver. From every URL, local or remote.
>>> 2. I prefer translated text's within the language directory.
>>>       
>> i would to if there were people maintaining these when the infos change.
>>     
> I think that having them in the jar is not user-friendly for 
> non-programmers doing translations
> BUT, it encourages people to contribute their translation to the project.
> Just my feeling,
>   
>>> 3. The "about text" should contain a small description, contributors and
>>> licence information.
>>>       
>> same as above. that's why i put the readme there. one place to maintain all 
>> the infos.
>>     
> See above.
>   
>>> 4. White text background and grey panel background is a little bit ugly.
>>>       
>> i like it. it hint's that the file is actually not part the gui itself.
>>     
> See above.
>
> Michaël
>   
>> ..ede
>>     


Matthias

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