Hi Ede I have a question,

In the commit comment Matthias wrote also about another cleanup/change: 
* removed the output of the Stacktrace, if the "readme.txt" was not 
found. With Java Webstart this file cannot be found. It's better to view 
nothing. A Stacktrace confuse the eunduser.
* Small GUI fixup, the about and infotab content are noc alwas on top.

with your revert - is that undone as well? If so - Why? - i.e. was it 
not useful or directly related to his other changes?

The discussion below just focuses on the "acknowledgement" of a missing 
resource.

My opinion actually would be: having a stack trace exposed to a user in 
a GUI is nothing that we should do. For that we have, as Matthias wrote, 
exactly the console message/log window. However, I also see that the 
problem here is rather a packaging (testing?) issue.

cheers,
stefan

PS: checked the new RC2 - looks good so far. Except that I had 2x 
download errors (i.e. only 26MB downloaded instead of 29/31). Not sure 
what happend - but thats probably a network or SF issue.

Am 25.04.12 15:17, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
> On 25.04.2012 20:08, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>> Hi ede
>>> On 23.04.2012 21:16, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi ede,
>>>>
>>>>> On 22.04.2012 21:07, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've commited a small fix in the AboutDialog. If the "readme.txt" file
>>>>>> was not found, the Stacktrace was shown. This is bad if you run OJ as
>>>>>> Webstart. Now nothing is viewed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> actually not finding the readme.txt right now is an error, except when 
>>>>> developing. that's why i left the stack there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That's right, it's an error. But to display this directly in the GUI is
>>>> not the best way. This should be the task of the logging framework or
>>>> the error dialog window.
>>>>
>>>
>>> having the user to acknowledge the error is a useless exercise as he's 
>>> merely meant to notice it, not to be disturbed in his workflow. using the 
>>> log framework would probably lead to the error not being noticed by anyone.
>>>
>> With "logging framework" i don't mean only the classic ones, such as
>> log4j. I also meant the error dialog, which seems to be the better
>> option than a raw stacktrace. (My subjective opinion)
>> Can you life with the current code, that nothing is displayed if no
>> readme.txt is found? At least until i found a solution for the webstart.
>>
>
> sorry, i can't. not having the readme.txt there is an error. having the user 
> to have to acknowledge this in a dialog with ok button is no option (see 
> "disturbs work flow" above).
>
> please find a solution that differentiates between webstart and desktop oj. 
> you could as well simply live with it for the time being until you have 
> webstart in a fashion that's able to load external files? if not, then simply 
> write a routine that integrates readme.txt into your jar file on webstart 
> releasing.
>
> ..ede
>
> ..ede
>
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