Hi, These basic shortcuts have always existed and behaved in a similar way (Alt, Shift-Alt, Ctrl, and Ctrl-Alt). If we had real users doing every day work with OJ they might get frustrated because the change does not make usage dramatically better, just different. OJ itself may have only developers but Kosmo and SkyJUMP have also normal users and probably they will continue to use the old shortcuts. Perhaps it would be better to keep these old ones as they are also in OJ but I do not have a strong opinion.
-Jukka- ________________________________________ Lähettäjä: [email protected] [[email protected]] Lähetetty: 28. joulukuuta 2012 23:58 Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: add kosmo shortcuts? not necessarily.. what you describe was mentioned in a source code comment of OJ, that clicks can become micro drags depending on the hardware... we still have the option to go back and use Shift for the PanTool. that way we would get the zoom to fence back but loose the only free modifier key.. i could live with that. wanna try? ..ede On 28.12.2012 22:47, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: > Hi, > > I am sometimes digitizing with a computer which has keyboard and touch screen > and with that computer I like most to use stylus and touchcreen instead of > mouse and it makes some things different. One difference is that click with > stylus is not stable (or my hand is not) and therefore with the new > shortcuts the one-click zoom-in does not necessarily work but it becomes a > short panning. Same happens if you try to digitize with a normal mouse while > sitting in a moving car. > > We can well forget these special problems now. We will meet them and many > more if there will be JUMP for tablets one day. > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > ________________________________________ > Lähettäjä: [email protected] [[email protected]] > Lähetetty: 28. joulukuuta 2012 19:50 > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: add kosmo shortcuts? > > On 28.12.2012 18:39, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The new zoom shortcuts do not update the scale value in the box below the >> map. > > probably fixable > >> I also found that Alt-drag, while it is nice for panning, makes it sometimes >> hard to zoom in if one is using a stylus for digitising or is in a move >> because mouse does not stay exactly at the same place during the click. > > sorry, can you elaborate? > >> Alt-Plus and Alt-Minus key for zooming are not very usable because user must >> use both hands for the operation. I would rather keep the mouse in one hand >> all the time. > > you can.. simply don't use the /additional/ keyboard shortcuts, but use mouse > buttons as you are used to > >> I tried also that Alt-gr button does not work here. > > yes that has no function up to now > >> My opinion at the moment is that old Alt and Shift-Alt shortcuts were a bit >> better for me, > > except of the scale meter bug above you have exactly the old Alt key > behaviour. difference is panning replaced "zoom to fence". > > or what are you missing? ..ede > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and > much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - > 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. > SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and > much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - > 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. > SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 _______________________________________________ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 _______________________________________________ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
