On 26.03.2013 08:27, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
> Hi Ede,
> 
> Am 25.03.2013 15:38, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
>> your welcome, i might think about your suggestion of a tutorial. on the 
>> other hand there is a plethora of howto's out there on the net about 
>> checking out a svn, so why waste effort there?
>>
> 
> Very good. Please tell me a good link (out of plethora of howto's) which 
> discribes how to build an OpenJUMP project with eclipse and SVN
> with the informations from this page:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/jump-pilot/index.php?title=Downloading_OpenJUMP#Source_Code
> 

the wiki is pretty unorganized, so there is a slight possibility something 
hides there. look for yourself. it does have a search function.

regarding checking out a branch to a project with eclipse, simply use the 
internet search engine of your choice.

>> you missed to answer the question about your uplink. would be interesting.
>>
> 
> My downloadspeed is about 30 Mbit/s.
> The downloading stops at sunday at 95%
> Maybe the link was broken?

is it possible that your provider switches ip's daily/weekly? the short 
disconnect could result in a confused checkout.

and you are sure you tried to checkout only 'core/trunk'? i sent you the link 
earlier and it is also on the wiki download page.

> 
>> the complete svn is currently 334MB, which you can argue is much, but i'd 
>> say still in a manageable area. we should probably start with a new tree 
>> when we hit 500 to accommodate users with very bad uplinks. by separating 
>> some of the auxiliary data, docs, plus libs, exe compiler, we should end up 
>> with a very lean core repository again.
>>
>> btw. if you want to contribute instruction for a plain source zip with 
>> libraries to the maven build. just go ahead. if only just for fun ;) i'll be 
>> happy to integrate it.
>>
> Until now I thought you are the specialist for maven, SVN and IDEs.

not at all. especially for maven. all i know about it, i learned by with OJ.

> Sorry, I can not help you, because I am only an poor programmer
> who is searching desperately only the source code and libs for OpenJUMP
> nightbuilds (without the overhead of SVN).
> So every poor programmer can use their own IDE and is not
> depending from SVN.

please understand that it is difficult for us few that are maintaining OJ on a 
regular schedule to fit in extra effort. we do what we do because we like it 
and have the freedom to fiddle in theoretically anything (for bigger changes we 
vote).
to keep the management of such an approach to a minimum we have to use a 
versioning system. we ended up with svn and it works well enough.
understand for example if you would deliver a patch against an older OJ version 
it would result in extra work for us to integrate it into the development 
trunk, up to the possibility that it does not work as expected as it was only 
tested with older surrounding code.

> 
> Even this link does not work because there are no libs
> (and it is old soucecode)!
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/1.5.2/OpenJUMP-1.5.2-r2930-src.zip/download

well libs are libs and src is src. src packages usually do not come with 
libraries. you have to acquire them in an extra step.

> So it is very, very troublesome programming with OpenJUMP!

never said it would be easy. but in my experience this is the same with all 
open source community projects. you should rather take it as a challenge and an 
opportunity to learn, than as discouragement. where is the fun in having 
everything served on golden platters everyday?

regards ..ede

>> ..ede
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Uwe
> 
>>
>> On 25.03.2013 13:53, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
>>> Hi Ede,
>>>
>>> thank you for the information about the errorstack.
>>>
>>> Just for fun, please write a small tutorial how to
>>> use SVN in eclipse.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>> Am 25.03.2013 12:27, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
>>>> On 25.03.2013 09:18, Uwe Dalluege wrote:
>>>>> But the download stops at 95% (after 5 houers)
>>>>> and after that I had lots of old OJ-file on my computer.
>>>>> SVN... no, thanks!
>>>>
>>>> just for fun, i double checked a full core/trunk checkout. it took mere 10 
>>>> minutes. this is a broadband access though with 100Mbit. what kind of 
>>>> internet connection did you use for such a long checkout?
>>>>
>>>> wrt. old files, well it's a versioning system. this way you can easily 
>>>> check what happened to specific file and find the point where you e.g. 
>>>> introduced the error.
>>>>
>>>> another question. was the errorstack not existing in the console/log 
>>>> output of your OJ version? console can be enabled in the batch file. log 
>>>> output is available in the log file or under 'Fenster/Konsolen Meldg.' .
>>>> usually OJ is very talkative when it comes to errors.
>>>>
>>>> ..ede
>>>>
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