Hi,
>> Not sure I understand how you want to manage true extensions.
>> I think an extension which is not included in PLUS distro still need to
>> be initialized through its initialize method rather than through
>> default-plugins.xml (or did I miss something).
> yes ;).. the "new" default-plugins.xml cannot only initialize, but also
> modify and/or place a plugin. it can even only do the second, leaving the
> initialization completely to the original extension.
Nice ! I forgot that. Is there a page explaining new default-plugin
syntax/options in the wiki. I did not found. Would be useful ;-)
>> As I understand it, for extensions, it's still up to the developper to
>> decide where the plugin will go.
> it is. on the other hand we now have the tools at hand to override this
> decision (and more, like icon, name etc..). we can change those without
> touching the extensions code, which is a big plus, as we usually do not
> control the extensions development.
I see. Did not play enough with that yet.
>> I think there may be a few reasons
>> why it should go in plugins menu rather than in tools menu :
>> - it may take place in another menu than tools
> then why 'Plugins'? that's even more generic than 'Tools' :)
Right. I think it makes sense for plugins added by the user. But it does
not make sense for extensions like the one we add in PLUS version.
>> - it may be difficult to insert it at the right place (see my hack for CTS)
> that will always be difficult. but we can now control the placing of known
> Extensions via xml and others simply go to the end of the menu. if they get
> popular we can easily add them to the xml definition for a proper placement.
Good.
>> - it may be easier to find a tool in plugins menu for a user if he knows it
>> added it as an extension (dropping a jar in ext dir)
> as i understand it, only a minority of our extensions are placed into
> 'Plugins'.
Not sure. And extensions which are not in plugins menu are often out of
tools menu (sextante, drivers, printer, colorchooser...)
>
>> Note that I'm not against moving current extensions from Plugins to
>> Tools where it makes sense, but redirecting MenuNames.PLUGIN to
>> MenuNames.TOOLS seems a bit rough.
> just a way to prevent unknown extensions to place themselves into 'Plugins'
> after we took the effort to remove it.
I see.
I now remember when I created the "plugins" menu that I wanted to avoid
the multiplication of main menus (sextante, roadmatcher create their own
menu, and extension authors tend to create a new menu for each new
extension).
So I would say that you re right when you want to place plugins at their
right place rather than in plugins menu, but as you can't avoid plugin
authors to create their own menu, letting a plugins menu maybe an
incitative way to gather extensions in a single menu rather than letting
them spread along the menu bar in an inconsistent way ("plugin",
"extension", "extensions", "myextensions"...)
>
>> Let's hear others as everybody has a different opinion when it comes
>> to put tools at the right place ;-)
> yeah.. speak up everybody.. ede
Is there anybody out there ?-)
Michaël
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