Hi all,

I am trying to gather some more info on the downside of the older/used gear. On paper, it looks like anything from an M5 up would be more than capable of meeting our needs for the next few years.

After looking at the cluepon site and digging around the archives here, I still have some questions...

It looks like with the exception of the ejector handle, the PICs are basically the same between the M5/10/20/7i. If that's true, that's great news.

Next up is the PICs themselves. It looks like there are several revisions of ATM PICs and GigE PICs. For example, I see references to "ATM2", which appears to be a hardware differentiation, and I think that for DSL aggregation, I probably want ATM2. On the GigE PICs, what is the main difference between the older and newer versions? I will likely cheap out and go with just 2 or 3 of them and for the less bandwidth-intensive stuff stick one of them in a GigE switch and do the "router on a stick" config with VLANs. Any thoughts on this?

As for the hardware, the nifty thing about these routers is that all the hard work of pushing packets around is done on the ASICs. That's good and bad I assume since newer gear has newer ASICs. What are the main features that a current generation router has that an older one would not due to limitations in the older ASICs?

Since the routing engine is basically a PC running a modded FreeBSD distro, what's the story with moving parts there? I'm having a hard time tracking down which models have flash for the RE and which use a hard drive. I assume if there's a drive, it would be a wise investment to grab a new drive...

And again, I'm still looking for any ballpark prices on software contracts for these older models. Just a very rough annual cost would really help.

Lastly, are there any very good books covering the hardware peculiarities and JunOS in general anyone would like to recommend?

I think that covers it for now.

Thanks again for all your help...

Charles

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Charles Sprickman
NetEng/SysAdmin
Bway.net - New York's Best Internet - www.bway.net
[email protected] - 212.655.9344

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