Charles, Yes the M5/M7i/M10/M10i/M20 PICs are the same with exception of handles. The PICs with handles are designated PE-... Getting P- PICs in and out of M5 - M0i is difficult and possibly damaging. ATM2 requires FPC-E. ($7k) P-1GE-SX, LX/LH non B = older, ($2k) P-1GE-SX-B = newer with MPLS and VLAN capability ($2500)
Example of router pricing: M10i router - 12.8 Gbps throughput rate (6.4 Gbps full duplex) 2x RE-850-1536 Routing Engine 850Mhz 1536m DRAM 2x FEB-M10i-BB - Forwarding Engine Board 4x PWR-M10i-M7i-AC-R AC Power Supplies rack mount, cords, cables, JunOS, slot covers... $13.5k/ea Show chassis and pictures available. We stock these and many more. Let me know your specific requirements and I will send a sales quote. on 12/15/08 9:13 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to gather some more info on the downside of the older/used > gear. On paper, it looks like anything from an M5 up would be more than > capable of meeting our needs for the next few years. > > After looking at the cluepon site and digging around the archives here, I > still have some questions... > > It looks like with the exception of the ejector handle, the PICs are > basically the same between the M5/10/20/7i. If that's true, that's great > news. > > Next up is the PICs themselves. It looks like there are several revisions > of ATM PICs and GigE PICs. For example, I see references to "ATM2", which > appears to be a hardware differentiation, and I think that for DSL > aggregation, I probably want ATM2. On the GigE PICs, what is the main > difference between the older and newer versions? I will likely cheap out > and go with just 2 or 3 of them and for the less bandwidth-intensive stuff > stick one of them in a GigE switch and do the "router on a stick" config > with VLANs. Any thoughts on this? > > As for the hardware, the nifty thing about these routers is that all the > hard work of pushing packets around is done on the ASICs. That's good and > bad I assume since newer gear has newer ASICs. What are the main features > that a current generation router has that an older one would not due to > limitations in the older ASICs? > > Since the routing engine is basically a PC running a modded FreeBSD > distro, what's the story with moving parts there? I'm having a hard time > tracking down which models have flash for the RE and which use a hard > drive. I assume if there's a drive, it would be a wise investment to grab > a new drive... > > And again, I'm still looking for any ballpark prices on software contracts > for these older models. Just a very rough annual cost would really help. > > Lastly, are there any very good books covering the hardware peculiarities > and JunOS in general anyone would like to recommend? > > I think that covers it for now. > > Thanks again for all your help... > > Charles > > ___ > Charles Sprickman > NetEng/SysAdmin > Bway.net - New York's Best Internet - www.bway.net > [email protected] - 212.655.9344 > > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~. Northern Calif. Networks, Inc. Nevada City, CA 95959 [email protected] 530-320-4194 Larry Stites _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
