This is an Acme Packet chassis. I really have no idea what it has running on it, but I'll find out from our voice team.
Thanks! On Jun 8, 2013 1:35 AM, "Gavin Henry" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John, > > We (SureVoIP) have seen this on some of our hosted SIP servers which > run on Linux with multiple interfaces. This was connected to a Cisco > switch though. If the SBC is on linux then install arpwatch and add > your email to /etc/aliases. We found that the Linux kernel doesn't > send the same arp response out of the same interface. For example, one > interface was a public IP and one was a private IP. The kernel would > send a "I'm on MAC blah" for the private IP out of the public IP port! > > arptables is the solution, but in 10 years it's the first time I'd > seen this. Google shows otherwise (me): > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/drbd/users/24805 > > http://serverfault.com/questions/58146/what-can-cause-two-network-interfaces-on-the-same-machine-to-flip-flop-their-ip > > arpwatch will report "flip flop" in the logs. > > If you're not on Linux then I'm not sure :-( > > Thanks. > > > On 8 June 2013 01:49, John Neiberger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here is another example of the same type of thing. In this case, a MAC > > address appears to be jumping from one four-port card to another on the > same > > switch. Port 5 is connected to one NIC, while port 8 is on another > four-port > > NIC and should never, ever use the MAC address we're learning on port 5. > Do > > these logs really indicate that the MAC is being learned on those > > interfaces, or is it cryptically trying to tell us something else? I > don't > > want to assume. > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.686871 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91, > > ifname ge-0/0/8.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.686981 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 (tag 40), iif > = > > ge-0/0/8.0: present in FDB > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687048 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:91) next-hop index change > [1330 -> > > 1329] > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687172 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91, > > ifname ge-0/0/5.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687267 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 (tag 40), iif > = > > ge-0/0/5.0: present in FDB > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687501 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:91) next-hop index change > [1329 -> > > 1330] > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687672 KRT enqueue FDB (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:91) nh-index > 1330 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:15.687732 l3nh_fdb_notify: FDB CHANGE vlan <sbc-core> mac > > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:49.269317 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91, > > ifname ge-0/0/5.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:49.269427 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 (tag 40), iif > = > > ge-0/0/5.0: present in FDB > > > > Jun 7 23:21:49.269583 KRT enqueue FDB (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:91) nh-index > 1330 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:49.269646 krt_dequeue: type FDB op change 3, > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 > > Direct nh 1330 > > > > Jun 7 23:21:49.270539 l3nh_fdb_notify: FDB CHANGE vlan <sbc-core> mac > > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 > > > > Jun 7 23:37:09.776588 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > 00:08:25:fa:3c:91, > > ifname ge-0/0/8.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > > > > Jun 7 23:37:09.776953 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:91 (tag 40), iif > = > > ge-0/0/8.0: present in FDB > > > > Jun 7 23:37:09.777140 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:91) next-hop index change > [1330 -> > > 1329] > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:30 PM, John Neiberger <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I just checked and we do not have spanning tree enabled on this switch > or > >> its partner. We have two switches with a 10-gig link between them. Each > >> switch is connected to a different upstream router. The device in > question > >> is a session border controller for VoIP. It is a chassis with multiple > >> four-port NICs that are in redundant pairs. Two four-port cards connect > to > >> one switch and the other two connect to the second switch. The cards use > >> virtual IPs and MAC addresses. If a failover is required, an entire > >> four-port card fails to the card connected to the other switch. At that > >> point the NIC is supposed to send gratuitous ARPs to repopulate the MAC > >> address table with the correct location. Based on the ethernet switching > >> trace logs, it looks to us like the virtual MAC addresses on those NICs > are > >> regularly jumping around between interfaces, which is definitely not > >> supposed to be happening. We're now stuck in a battle between Juniper > and > >> the SBC vendor over whose equipment is misbehaving. I wanted to make > sure we > >> were correctly interpreting those trace logs. I'm also still curious > about > >> why the MAC learning log is not updating. There hasn't been a new entry > in > >> the log in nearly two months, which just can't be true. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> John > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Harold 'Buz' Dale <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Are you running spanning tree ? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 18:37, "Gavin Henry" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Is this a server connected via two ports? > >>> > > >>> > Sent from my iPad 2 > >>> > > >>> > On 7 Jun 2013, at 23:12, John Neiberger <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Also, another interesting thing about this is that the output of > "show > >>> >> ethernet mac-learning-log" stops at April 13th. I have no idea why. > If > >>> >> a > >>> >> MAC address were jumping around, we'd see it in the MAC learning > >>> >> log...if > >>> >> it were up to date. What would cause a Juniper switch to stop > logging > >>> >> to > >>> >> the MAC learning log? > >>> >> > >>> >> By the way, this is an EX4200 running 10.4R6.5. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM, John Neiberger < > [email protected]> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> We're trying to troubleshoot an odd issue and this log output makes > >>> >>> it > >>> >>> appear that a MAC address is flipping between interfaces. There are > >>> >>> other > >>> >>> interfaces involved later in the logs. I'm starting to think this > >>> >>> isn't > >>> >>> telling us what we think it's telling us. Does this indicate that > the > >>> >>> MAC > >>> >>> address really is being learned from multiple interfaces? The > >>> >>> confusing > >>> >>> thing about the logs is the mention of l3nh. Is that layer three > next > >>> >>> hop? > >>> >>> If so, why are we seeing that in ethernet-level trace options and > >>> >>> what is > >>> >>> the significance? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I'm a little confused. Here is an example: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.953201 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > >>> >>> 00:08:25:fa:3c:82, > >>> >>> ifname ge-0/0/6.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.953312 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:82 (tag > 40), > >>> >>> iif = > >>> >>> ge-0/0/6.0: present in FDB > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.953374 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:82) next-hop index change > >>> >>> [1344 > >>> >>> -> 1328] > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.953562 KRT enqueue FDB (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:82) > >>> >>> nh-index 1328 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.953712 krt_dequeue: type FDB op change 3, > >>> >>> 00:08:25:fa:3c:82 Direct nh 1328 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:07:22.954372 l3nh_fdb_notify: FDB CHANGE vlan <sbc-core> > >>> >>> mac > >>> >>> 00:08:25:fa:3c:82 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041160 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > >>> >>> 00:08:25:fa:3c:82, > >>> >>> ifname ge-0/0/5.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041271 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:82 (tag > 40), > >>> >>> iif = > >>> >>> ge-0/0/5.0: present in FDB > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041332 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:82) next-hop index change > >>> >>> [1328 > >>> >>> -> 1327] > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041670 Attempt to add vlan sbc-core mac > >>> >>> 00:08:25:fa:3c:82, > >>> >>> ifname ge-0/0/6.0, pnac_status 0, 0 > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041767 vlan sbc-core mac 00:08:25:fa:3c:82 (tag > 40), > >>> >>> iif = > >>> >>> ge-0/0/6.0: present in FDB > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041807 (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:82) next-hop index change > >>> >>> [1327 > >>> >>> -> 1328] > >>> >>> Jun 4 13:21:18.041962 KRT enqueue FDB (3, 00:08:25:fa:3c:82) > >>> >>> nh-index 1328 > >>> >>> > >>> >>> It looks to me like the MAC address is jumping around. What do you > >>> >>> think? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Thanks, > >>> >>> John > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > >>> >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > >>> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Gavin Henry. > Managing Director. > > T +44 (0) 1224 279484 > M +44 (0) 7930 323266 > F +44 (0) 1224 824887 > E [email protected] > > Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). > > http://www.suretecsystems.com/ > > Suretec Systems is a limited company registered in Scotland. Registered > number: SC258005. Registered office: 24 Cormack Park, Rothienorman, > Inverurie, > Aberdeenshire, AB51 8GL. > > Subject to disclaimer at http://www.suretecgroup.com/disclaimer.html > > Do you know we have our own VoIP provider called SureVoIP? 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