I've definitely got some sympathy for MPLS (and BGP in fact) being a
licensed option given it's a feature most probably wouldn't want (albeit
a very useful one for a niche who will pay a lot for an AFL to support
it), but things like OSPF and IPv6 should be standard features and are
on most competitors L3 switches. I mean, taxing users wanting IPv6? Is
that Juniper's contribution to helping people push v6 support forward?
Robin
On 08/11/14 04:47, Tim Jackson wrote:
Licenses for stupid SW features are total BS, here's to hoping that
Juniper figures this out. Probably not though.
If I missed that, sorry..
From what I know, MPLS on new EX is unlikely to happen (even though I
really really really want it). ACX is where MPLS on Broadcom based
products is going to happen (outside of the generous MPLS featureset
available on QFX today).
--
Tim
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Skeeve Stevens
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was referring to OSPF, IPv6, etc.. basic features....
and the fact you need an EFL and AFL now is just rude.
...Skeeve
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On 8 November 2014 15:35, Tim Jackson <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Is MPLS CCC really a basic feature?
What other enterprise switch can do L2 over MPLS?
I'd imagine that EX4300 is capable of it (and more) that it
can do it,
but why waste the effort making l2circuit work on Broadcom DC/EX
chips? It wasn't promised in the switches datasheets, was it?
Push for cash?
Basic features?
You got shit for free now you expect it. I agree that shit
should just
appear from my vendors magically for free at prices cheaper
than their
competitors, but I also live in the real world where reality
and my
dreams aren't the same thing..
Then again, I'm also just an angry man waiting on his plane in
an airport...
--
Tim
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Skeeve Stevens
<[email protected]
<mailto:skeeve%[email protected]>> wrote:
> I agree... it is quite rude and seems to be just a push for cash
> considering what basic features these are.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On 8 November 2014 12:26, Robin Williams
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We currently make some use of the MPLS CCC functionality of
EX3200 and
>> EX4200 switches with the AFL, but note that their
replacements EX3300 and
>> EX4300 don't have any MPLS support. Does anyone know if
this is a
>> temporary lack of support while the box is being developed
further, or is
>> there no plans no bring this support back in the new
products? I don't
>> like the way the EX3300 is being touted as the replacement
for the EX3200
>> but the feature set has entirely changed.
>>
>> I also think it's a bit rich that you now need an EFL
license for things
>> like OSPF support, where you didn't previously, and for the
AFL features
>> such as BGP, you now need both an EFL *AND* and AFL where
you previously
>> only needed an AFL.
>>
>> Would be interested to hear other opinions on this, to me
it all seems
>> like a bit of a silly move on the part of Juniper and a
gift to Cisco.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robin.
>>
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