You should not need a license for MOST features to work, for example L3 Routing, EVPN, etc. It depend a little on the exact platform and feature/function. MACSec is one where you “may” need a license to activate, to test/etc. In general, currently licenses are not required for most features to function or to be used for testing. In case of testing, Trial/Demo licenses can be cut easily.
Just FYI, Rich Richard McGovern Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 978-618-3342 I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good I don’t make the news, I just report it Juniper Business Use Only On 10/25/23, 2:38 PM, "Ola Thoresen" <[email protected]> wrote: On 25.10.2023 19:20, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp wrote: > Crist, not quite 100% accurate. Perpetual License are permeant and last > forever, but with newer Flex License structure also require a SW Support > Contract. Subscription based licenses of course expire at end of the > subscription date, but do include SW Support. > > Trial and Demo licenses always come with end date, usually 60-90 days in the > future. I am not 100% sure about expiration for Lab Licenses. But the main issue here was whether the licenses are trust based or not. Which means that even _without_ a license, an MX304 should be able to do almost anything that requires a license (except bng, macsec and possibly a few other special use cases) - although it would cause nagging in the logs and when committing. I think this was cleared up earlier, that the OP probably experienced some other bug. That is what's important for us. That functions don't stop working if a subscription license expires, and that you can try out a feature without buying a license first. /Ola (T) > FYI Only, Rich > > Richard McGovern > Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks > 978-618-3342 > > I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good > I don’t make the news, I just report it > > > > > Juniper Business Use Only > > On 10/25/23, 11:02 AM, "Crist Clark" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I think the key here is that the OP had evaluation licenses. Those are > timed and things stop working when they expire. Purchased license are > permanent and do not expire. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:18 AM Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > >> >> On 10/25/23 14:42, Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp wrote: >> >>> But we can reject licenses that expire in operation and cause an >>> outage. That I think is a very reasonable ask. I know that IOS XE for >>> example will do this, you run out of license and your box breaks. I >>> swapped out from CRS1k to ASR1k because I knew the organisation would >>> eventually fail to fix the license ahead of expiry. >> We had this happen to us in 2014 when we recovered a failed server >> running CSR1000v. The "installation evaluation" license expired after 60 >> days, and since everyone forgot about it, the box went down. >> >> So as part of our deployment/recovery procedure, we always procure >> CSR1000v licenses for each installation. >> >> Of course, with things changing to Cat8000v, this could get juicy. >> >> >>> I'm happy if the device calls homes via https proxy, and reports my >>> license use, and the sales droid tells me I'm not compliant with >>> terms. Making it a commercial problem is fine, making it an acute >>> technical problem is not. >>> >>> >>> In your specific case, the ports never worked, you had to procure a >>> license, and the license never dies. So from my POV, this is fine. And >>> being absolutist here will not help, as then you can't even achieve >>> reasonable compromise. >> I tend to agree. >> >> Mark. >> _______________________________________________ >> juniper-nsp mailing list >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FzL92c-5uCwqrJhu0-QvKEMdS-Z2V2LBDoMIpEp3V-HsTI0CkWW3zc0jzZyDrfa2xzUObBrBBPokCA5uOFi2Mx3YQGF2pQRt$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FzL92c-5uCwqrJhu0-QvKEMdS-Z2V2LBDoMIpEp3V-HsTI0CkWW3zc0jzZyDrfa2xzUObBrBBPokCA5uOFi2Mx3YQGF2pQRt$><https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FzL92c-5uCwqrJhu0-QvKEMdS-Z2V2LBDoMIpEp3V-HsTI0CkWW3zc0jzZyDrfa2xzUObBrBBPokCA5uOFi2Mx3YQGF2pQRt$> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!DCfYwRw1imYFKDFEHhUId-sYljy6M_OKwLILu-LSTGQ723YCzvc8IwyK20oltx3ugbM8GjtiHmg8EkdyGXjYPmCx3Y2uoaDo$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!DCfYwRw1imYFKDFEHhUId-sYljy6M_OKwLILu-LSTGQ723YCzvc8IwyK20oltx3ugbM8GjtiHmg8EkdyGXjYPmCx3Y2uoaDo$> _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
