I tried to get my daughter (now Sr at Uni) to look at this field. Her response was, “I don’t want to do anything like what you do” 😩
Richard McGovern Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 978-618-3342 I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good I don’t make the news, I just report it Juniper Business Use Only From: J Findley <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 3:00 PM To: Richard McGovern <[email protected]>, Michael Hare <[email protected]>, Saku Ytti <[email protected]>, Aaron1 <[email protected]> Cc: juniper-nsp <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router [External Email. Be cautious of content] Great time to be a network engineer Juniper Business Use Only From: Richard McGovern <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 11:54 AM To: J Findley <[email protected]>; Michael Hare <[email protected]>; Saku Ytti <[email protected]>; Aaron1 <[email protected]> Cc: juniper-nsp <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router WPI in Worcester, MA is also looking, as are [too] many others. Rich Richard McGovern Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 978-618-3342 I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good I don’t make the news, I just report it Juniper Business Use Only From: J Findley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 2:29 PM To: Richard McGovern <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Michael Hare <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Saku Ytti <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Aaron1 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: juniper-nsp <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router [External Email. Be cautious of content] We are trying to hire network engineers at Blue Mountain Networks and does anybody know someone looking for an opportunity. Sorry if I should not ask. Juniper Business Use Only -----Original Message----- From: juniper-nsp <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 10:59 AM To: Michael Hare <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Saku Ytti <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Aaron1 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: juniper-nsp <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router A great story for the power of Apstra [in the DC], which is also multi-vendor!! Richard McGovern Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks 978-618-3342 I'd rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good I don't make the news, I just report it Juniper Business Use Only On 10/25/23, 12:48 PM, "Michael Hare" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Re: "In your specific case, the ports never worked, you had to procure a license, and the license never dies." Here's a cool story. At some point I migrated the perpetual 10G FPC2 SFP+ port license on our MX104s from the "request system license add" mantra to "set system license" so it was more easily manageable in the config. The migration worked fine in the lab. I was making the change in production batch using automation, using the model of "commit confirmed" followed in a bit with a "commit check". I pushed a set of "commit confirmed" out and got distracted by.. something. I missed the commit check. The config rolled back, but guess what didn't roll back? The "request system license add". The SFP+ shut off. No truck rolls were needed but it did create a needless outage for some. Going back to Saku's comment about SSL certs; never underestimate a human's ability to fail. -Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: juniper-nsp > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]%0b>> ether.net>> On Behalf Of Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:43 AM > To: Aaron1 > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> > Cc: juniper-nsp > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 15:26, Aaron1 via juniper-nsp > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > > > Years ago I had to get a license to make my 10g interfaces work on > > my > MX104 > > I think we need to be careful in what we are saying. > > We can't reject licences out right, that's not a fair ask and it won't happen. > > But we can reject licenses that expire in operation and cause an > outage. That I think is a very reasonable ask. I know that IOS XE for > example will do this, you run out of license and your box breaks. I > swapped out from CRS1k to ASR1k because I knew the organisation would > eventually fail to fix the license ahead of expiry. > > I'm happy if the device calls homes via https proxy, and reports my > license use, and the sales droid tells me I'm not compliant with > terms. Making it a commercial problem is fine, making it an acute > technical problem is not. > > > In your specific case, the ports never worked, you had to procure a > license, and the license never dies. So from my POV, this is fine. And > being absolutist here will not help, as then you can't even achieve > reasonable compromise. > > -- > ++ytti > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3cmailto:[email protected]>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/j<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/j> > uniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FzL92c-5uCwqrJhu0-QvKEMdS-Z2V2LBDoMIpEp3V-H > sTI0CkWW3zc0jzZyDrfa2xzUObBrBBPokCA5uOFi2Mx3YQGF2pQRt$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://urldefe__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AmH_FePIAzznfciwJBbAS3_O-47PXK8uQ5b2RDzTX3PVEX5iBOE0hj-AWq6hIq20dgEiMreMDjQJ26UJnD5V3vcSCH0$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/urldefe__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AmH_FePIAzznfciwJBbAS3_O-47PXK8uQ5b2RDzTX3PVEX5iBOE0hj-AWq6hIq20dgEiMreMDjQJ26UJnD5V3vcSCH0$%0b>> nse.com/v3/__https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!N__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AmH_FePIAzznfciwJBbAS3_O-47PXK8uQ5b2RDzTX3PVEX5iBOE0hj-AWq6hIq20dgEiMreMDjQJ26UJnD5V5FSQqjc$ > Et6yMaO-gk!FzL92c-5uCwqrJhu0-QvKEMdS-Z2V2LBDoMIpEp3V-HsTI0CkWW3zc0jzZy > Drfa2xzUObBrBBPokCA5uOFi2Mx3YQGF2pQRt$> _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AmH_FePIAzznfciwJBbAS3_O-47PXK8uQ5b2RDzTX3PVEX5iBOE0hj-AWq6hIq20dgEiMreMDjQJ26UJnD5V0J67z44$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AmH_FePIAzznfciwJBbAS3_O-47PXK8uQ5b2RDzTX3PVEX5iBOE0hj-AWq6hIq20dgEiMreMDjQJ26UJnD5V0J67z44$> _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
