Looking at the notes - *We encourage users to start trying JupyterLab in 
preparation for a future transition * - I have a question re: the roadmap:

- will Jupyter notebooks continue to be available as such once Jupyterlab 
is available? (could a jupyterlab instance be configured to just mimic a 
simple notebook UI, for example)
- will Jupyterhub continue to supplort multiuser deployment of Jupyter 
notebooks?

One of the attractions of Jupyter notebooks in education and for supporting 
use of code outside computing discipline is that the notebook interface is 
relatively simple and friendly without all the sidebar chrome and menus and 
features and tools and stuff that make IDEs a terrifying experience for 
most people. I'm keen to be able to keep using a simple clean interface 
from the off with students and nontechies.

I'm lobbying my institution to make notebooks available locally, a process 
that will take 3-6 months to get deployed and then be expected to not 
change much for a chunk of time. What should I be lobbying for?! I'm 
pitching for novices to be able to access simple notebook UIs without any 
need for too many features in the first instance.

(eg if/when nteract ships with a bundled kernel, I can see it being great 
for use with this user community (even more so if the ability to launch 
temporary or multiuser nteract instances from a remote instituional server 
accessed via a browser).)

By way of trying to express my general concerns, as opposed to just being 
critical of the new... Looking at things like RStudio, it used to be 
relatively simple... but as it gets richer features and more powerful 
tools, and experts who've grown with it just have to keep up with it, and 
maybe also demand more of it as they get more expert/professional, it just 
gets more complicated and scary for novices coming to it for the first 
time. Sometimes less is more. The on-ramp needs to be kept simple. (Or at 
least, it helps if there is a simple on-ramp somewhere...). There are risks 
to always developing more and moving away from the simple offering that 
appealed to folk in the first place... Which isn't to say I don't like the 
new features that appear with each new release of eg Jupyter notebooks and 
isn't to say that Jupyter project shouldn't become an ever more powerful 
tool for expert and power scientific computing users.

But it's easy to forget that the experience of welcoming new features as 
you perceive they're missing, because you're growing in expertise as the 
tool acquires more powerful features, is different to someone coming to the 
environment for the first time - as a simple notebook that did what it did 
3 years ago, to the more complex notebook it is now, to the yet more 
complex Jupyterlab view?

--tony

On Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:11:30 UTC, takowl wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've just released the first beta for Jupyter Notebook 5.0. Please try it 
> out and let us know about any bugs. You can install it using:
>
> pip install --upgrade --pre notebook
>
> There isn't a headline big new feature in 5.0, but rather a range of new 
> features and improvements. You can read about some of them here:
> http://jupyter-notebook.readthedocs.io/en/latest/changelog.html
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>

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