"'Oliver Freyermuth' via K-9 Mail" <[email protected]> writes:

> since I was adviced in https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/4258 to 
> redirect my questions to the mailing list, I'm hereby doing this. 

I'll address only one point.

> 1. How is Google Push related to IMAP IDLE? 

First, "google push" is not a term I often see.  I assume you mean
"using GCM messages, now called FCM, to cause an app to begin
processing", with the usual scheme being that somehow a FCM message is
sent from a server via the FCM cloud and to the phone, which causes it
to do something like check in with the server.

First, this solution is problematic from a privacy perspective (and
requires agreeing to some Google TOS), and relies on having google code
in the phone.  It is, for example, not present in LineageOS.

I am not aware of any use of FCM in k-9.  (Perhaps that's because I use
the f-droid build, where any FCM code would have to be removed in order
to produce a Free Software apk.  But my I have also not seen any
discussion of it.)

I am not aware of IETF standards that describe how to integrate IMAP and
these sorts of push notification services.   There is a generic http
push RFC:

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8030

and some more or less expired content:

  https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4550
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-maes-lemonade-p-imap/

but I am not aware of this being in use in a general/interoperable
manner.  (It would not surprise me that various proprietary mail
services with proprietary companion apps do things like this.)

So I will advance the theory that:

  k-9 does not use FCM/GCM (and hence does not use "google push")

  IMAP IDLE is the standard approach

  discussion of "google push"/FCM in this context is without basis and
  basically a red herring

I would be interested to hear any explanations if that's not accurate.

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