Am 27.11.19 um 22:57 schrieb Andy Figueroa:
> Contact a developer. You're wasting your time here.

Thanks for the clarity. 
Which communication channel should I use then? Apparently, this discussion is 
unwanted on the issue tracker where devs are roaming,
as a dev there directed me to this mailing list for these kinds of questions. 

Thanks and all the best,
        Oliver

> --
> Andy
> 
> On November 27, 2019 2:52:51 PM EST, 'Oliver Freyermuth' via K-9 Mail 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     Am 27.11.19 um 20:32 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> 
>         "'Oliver Freyermuth' via K-9 Mail" <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>             since I was adviced in https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/4258 
> to
>             redirect my questions to the mailing list, I'm hereby doing this.
> 
> 
>         I'll address only one point.
> 
>             1. How is Google Push related to IMAP IDLE?
> 
> 
>     <snip>
> 
> 
>         So I will advance the theory that:
> 
>         k-9 does not use FCM/GCM (and hence does not use "google push")
> 
>         IMAP IDLE is the standard approach
> 
>         discussion of "google push"/FCM in this context is without basis and
>         basically a red herring
> 
>         I would be interested to hear any explanations if that's not accurate.
> 
> 
>     I could not agree more with all your statements. 
> 
>     My question was motivated due to comments by @beerisgood in 
> https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/4258 (marked as off-topic),
>     explaining that push in K9 mail works fine on stock ROMs with Gapps since 
> "Google Push" is used. 
>     I failed to understand how these things relate, since my understanding of 
> K9 mail push always was "IMAP IDLE",
>     and Google Push (to my understanding) is GCM indeed, as you stated. 
> 
>     Quoting myself from that issue:
>      "Is it because Google push enforces that the device keeps up a 
> persistent TCP connection, 
>       which - coincidentally - also IMAP IDLE requires, such that the 
> built-in Google stuff "by accident" fixes IMAP IDLE by forcing the TCP stack 
> to stay active?"
> 
>     This would be the only correlation I could think of. However, a clear 
> statement that K9 does indeed _not_ use GCM from the devs would be nice. 
> 
>     Indeed, "push" notifications in K9 mail were always working very well for 
> me, but my device is running a stock ROM with Gapps. 
>     But apparently it was broken for most users (otherwise it would not have 
> been removed without any possibility for the user to re-enable it),
>     according to the comments marked as off-topic, it seems this was mainly 
> the case on non-Gapps devices. 
> 
>     Cheers and thanks,
>       Oliver
> 
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