Problem is that kbuild-2.5 needs to be split up for inclusion in the 2.5
kernel.

So my suggestion is that in a first step the Makefile.in in each
directory could be parsed to the existing form of Makefiles[*], with the rest
of the build system staying the same. This Makefile.in -> Makefile (per
directory) parsing could be done as first step of "make bzImage" in
the existing kbuild-24. 

This way we could have the new Makefile.in syntax in quite soon. The change
from "Makefile" to "Makefile.in" in each directory can be done slowly during
a few kernel releases (and so it's not necessary to have the 24/48 hour 
"nothing else happens"-period). 

After this first step (which would eliminate the need for "kbuild-common"
and "kbuild-$arch") the kbuild-core could be targeted for splitting up so
that it can be included in small pieces, too.

So I'm not arguing for recursive Makefiles - it's just a suggestion on how
to break the kbuild patch up for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel.

Dominik

Note[*]: needs not to be 100% equivalent, of course, just the result needs
to be the same. "Difficult" current Makefiles which need complicated
commands in the new Makefile.ins could be left out at first (again:
step-by-step!)

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 06:14:23PM +1000, Brendan J Simon wrote:
> I'm not quite sure what you are saying about coverting the Makefile.in 
> files to Makefiles.  If you mean having a toplevel Makefile that 
> recursively calls the subdirectory Makefiles then forget it.  This is 
> really bad as you effectively end up with lots of subprojects with 
> interdependencies that are generally incomplete.  There is an excellent 
> short paper written by Peter Miller explaining why recursive Makefiles 
> are considered harmful.  In summary, it gives the developer the 
> impression (and a false sense of security) that the build system will 
> accurately rebuild out of date files, but in reality it may not.  The 
> paper is called "Recuresive Make Considered Harmful" and you find it at 
> http://aegis.sourceforge.net/auug97.pdf
> 
> I apologise if I have misinterpreted your suggestions/statements.
> 
> Brendan Simon.

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