https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375951
--- Comment #14 from Kai Krakow <k...@kaishome.de> --- I'd like to see that various window contents could be moved to the title bar. E.g. a video player could put player controls there (pause, play, restart, volume) as buttons. Applications like video players should have an option to overlay the title bar with the video content, thus it could fade out on mouse-out or when the mouse was not moved for some time so you can watch the video distraction free. At least for maximized mode this would be a nice option. As for menu bars in a global top-bar: I'm not in for that because Mac OS does it but because it has some real benefits: 1. It wouldn't take away screen real estate in windows because we can save some vertical space there. 2. It is much more easy to just push the mouse to the top screen border and click to hit a menu item. It must be ensured that the click-area touches the top of the screen. 3. Such a top bar should also integrate windows controls (maximize, minimize, full screen, various pinning options, the app-specific controls I mentioned before) because it is more easy to point to the right top screen corner to click the close button instead of somewhere in the window. But it should only include windows controls if the window was maximized. This is also why it would be important to put the controls into the top-bar when you maximize a window. For app-specific controls, I could imagine to make a container at the right side for it which could also act as a sys-tray container. The left side could take an application starter. This would remove app launchers and sys-tray from the button bar so we get some more horizontal space for the windows list which is a benefit also because buttons wouldn't be squashed together too soon (which often results in trimmed titles and less-easy navigation to the document you're looking for). Putting windows into the title bar is an interesting option but I fear there will be problems with the amount of menus applications show: Cramming a document title AND the menus into the title bar results in poor usability. Reducing the application menu to one button (or even a single mini-icon as it is currently implemented) is a usability horror. If someone wants to do this, let them do. I think that in most applications that have a useful toolbar you only need the menu in rare occasions, so I'm fine with that in such cases. As more applications adapt, reducing the menu bar to a single button (but not a small icon) can become more useful. So it should always be an option, maybe even per application as a kwin app-specific setting. I would also appreciate if the menu bar and tool bar of an application would blend with the title bar color. KDE already supports click-anywhere-to-drag so this would be a usability improvement and I could make title bars smaller. I'm currently still using a classical bottom bar with app-launcher, quick launcher icons, the windows list, activity switcher (button mode), sys-tray and clock. This leaves only about 50% of horizontal space for the windows list, and I don't like when windows become grouped or end up as very narrow buttons or maybe only icons. The current grouping-implementation of the windows list is not very user-friendly: There's confusion when a click shows a list vs. when it focuses the application, especially because it also shows window previews on hover. These are similar semantics overlaying each other in daily use. But if you turn off grouping, there's too little space available to fit all the windows with reasonable button sizes. Maybe it would help if the windows list would not try to use the same size across all buttons but use shorter ones when the title is short. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
