https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458037

--- Comment #9 from rik <r...@jilocasin.net> ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #8)
> "A picture says a thousand words!"
> 
> You said you set the Oxygen scrollbars to 30px, but I measured it in your
> screenshot with KRuler, and the bar itself is clearly 50px thick, with the
> track (including extra invisible click areas on the side, like Breeze) being
> 64px thick.
> 
> So I gather you would like the scrollbars in Breeze to be as thick as you've
> set them in Oxygen?
> 
> > And why did you close this bug without even attempting to fix it?
> Because we first need to establish that there *is* a bug, or a legitimate
> feature request. Before, we weren't there, because you indicated that you
> had set your scrollbars to a size that's smaller to the default size while
> simultaneously asking for the ability to make them bigger--two actions that
> are contradictory. With your image helping to explain the situation, we're
> closer to the goal of figuring out something actionable here.

I would like, need, to have the ability to (In reply to Nate Graham from
comment #8)
> "A picture says a thousand words!"
> 
> You said you set the Oxygen scrollbars to 30px, but I measured it in your
> screenshot with KRuler, and the bar itself is clearly 50px thick, with the
> track (including extra invisible click areas on the side, like Breeze) being
> 64px thick.
> 
> So I gather you would like the scrollbars in Breeze to be as thick as you've
> set them in Oxygen?
> 
> > And why did you close this bug without even attempting to fix it?
> Because we first need to establish that there *is* a bug, or a legitimate
> feature request. Before, we weren't there, because you indicated that you
> had set your scrollbars to a size that's smaller to the default size while
> simultaneously asking for the ability to make them bigger--two actions that
> are contradictory. With your image helping to explain the situation, we're
> closer to the goal of figuring out something actionable here.

I would like to, no need to, have the ability to alter the UI.  Change to
scrollbar width, the existence of steppers, the ability to keep them from auto
hiding, the ability to change the color of the track, the slider, the steppers. 

Having invisible active areas doesn't help.  Having to hover, is next to
impossible.   As I mentioned earlier right now there's a limited set of things
you can change, it isn't always listed just what any particular theme or
application style author has set things to or what they are _allowing_ end
users to change.

The end of my comment  timestamped 2022-09-07 15:56:28 UTC has a listing of
what I believe would be helpful.

thanks.

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