On Thursday 16 January 2014 22:24:09 Marco Martin wrote: > they are both desiderable, but they seems quite in contrast each other. > I'm sure I'm hitting a false dichotomy there, but not seeing a clear > solution. does anybody does?
There shouldn't be a dichotomy. It's a matter of defining and then pointing out sensible groupings of applications (a term which I use broadly here) to downstream. Whether any particular downstream picks it up (e.g. as a FreeBSD metaport or an OpenSUSE product) is up to them. But just defining these things forces *us* to think about how things work together and what kinds of tasks / workflows / hobbies we can effectively enable with our applications. It can also help downstream think about how *they* group stuff and present it to the user. This discussion is straying close to "package management without talking about packages anymore". That's probably a good thing. In the FreeBSD world, there's a history of having metapackages that get particular tasks done. One is called "kde4" and it installs a whole bunch of KDE things; also extragear apps and some third-party stuff as well. But my favorite metaport used to be "instant-workstation". You install it, and it pulls in the X server, some programming libraries, programming tools, and twm. And it's a great match between the task I want to accomplish and the (meta)package that implements this. And then I don't need to worry about figuring out where to get xterm from, if I can trust the people who define instant-workstation to think about the task at hand and what tools are needed. Note also that we *have* some kinds of metapackages already defined. Thery're on our website, at http://www.kde.org/applications/ . You'll note that the list of applications in "graphics" doesn't coincide with the repositories, and does include digiKam, because that's a useful application for doing (some kinds of) graphics work. Who said tags earlier in this thread? Yeah. [ade] _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community
