On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 2:05:05 PM CET Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:01 PM Martin Graesslin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No, that's not what I'm saying. First of all we need to realize that we
> > have a
> > big problem (yay for Thomas), second we need to find a solution to the
> > problem.
> > Currently we are brainstorming ideas and I think that needs to continue.
> > But
> > pretending there is no problem and continue as we used to work, does
> > obviously
> > not solve the problems.
> > 
> > Personal note: as some might have noticed I'm deeply disappointed with the
> > state of our software in distros. And I'm envious to Unity which has
> > Ubuntu
> > and Cinnamon which has Mint and GNOME Shell which has Fedora Workstation.
> > And
> > OSX which has OSX and Windows which has Windows.
> 
> Are there things we can do to help the people inside the distributions who
> are fighting for us and want to get our software to the enduser in a good
> state?

I think some aspects discussed here can help those people. E.g. a list of 
requirements could help to have a stronger standing when a technology needs 
updating.

Also we could provide ways which make it easier for distributions to share 
experiences, so that mistakes don't get repeated.

Cheers
Martin

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