Hi, On Wednesday 03 February 2016 14:57:02 Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 1:46:16 PM CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > > Il Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:40:58 +0100, Martin Graesslin ha scritto: > > > to use a specific technology. It's totally fine if we go ahead and say > > > our technology stack includes systemd, networkmanager and apparmor. If > > > your distro cannot do that it's not providing the best expected > > > experience. In reality we don't have the manpower to test multiple > > > > I'm answering you but this is a point more general, which I overlooked > > before: don't forget that distributions ship other software! > > > > And said software has to work and coexist with KDE software. So as a > > distribution, often we have to take compromises to ensure everything works > > as intended. > > Yes I know, that's the obvious reply you get from distros. And I call > BULLSHIT to that. If a distribution ships with a broken bluetooth setup, > because another desktop requires an outdated version there is something > broken in this so deeply that I cannot find words about it.
I think part of the Problem is that those reports end up with you and are not triaged on the distribution level. I can totally see your point there but I disagree with your general mistrust of Distributors and their choices. If a Distributor makes a bad choice, of course he should end up with the annoyed users and not you! But if your solution for that is not to give distributors any choices I disagree with you. They also want to provide the best user experience for their Use Cases. I've just wrote a mail to release-team [1] suggesting a way to mitigate at least some of the problems we face with distributions. In particular unqualified bugreports that are due to packaging problems. In general I think a bug should go through a distribution maintainer before it reaches a developer. While I know that this is not realistic to work in 100% of the cases we might want to encourage this. Regards, Andre 1: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2016-February/009278.html -- Andre Heinecke | ++49-541-335083-262 | http://www.intevation.de/ Intevation GmbH, Neuer Graben 17, 49074 Osnabrück | AG Osnabrück, HR B 18998 Geschäftsführer: Frank Koormann, Bernhard Reiter, Dr. Jan-Oliver Wagner
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