Am 2017-06-16 21:35, schrieb Alexander Neundorf:
On 2017 M05 29, Mon 21:17:29 CEST Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks,

Last year we have talked a lot about KDE's vision, fleshed it out and
wrote it down: https://community.kde.org/KDE/Vision I am proud that we
have done that. However the work does not end there. We have the
answer to the question "why are we here". We still need the answer to
the question "how do we achieve our vision". We've had an insightful
survery among our community and users and a lot of discussions around
that. This was then all further discussed in a sessions at QtCon in
Berlin. After that smaller groups have sat down to take all the input
and refine it, but then the process got stuck for several reasons. At
the last board meeting the board and sebas sat down again and looked
at where we are wrt distilling all the input. It turns out we are less
far away than we thought. We took the input from the session at
Akademy and polished the wording slightly. We then analyzed it more
and figured out the issue that had been bugging us with the existing
draft: It was mixing mission and strategy. We split it up and this
seems to work much better.

I'd like to invite you all to take a look at the current draft and
provide your constructive feedback so we can use this as the basis for
our work for the next years.

https://community.kde.org/KDE/Mission

nice to see this moving again. :-)

There is not much in this draft to disagree with.
Nevertheless a few comments:
- in the Thomas' survey, I think reliability and stability ranked quite high. I cannot really find those here in the strategy. Is this maybe the "quality" in the second bullet of "to create a convincing user experience" ? Could it be
made more obvious ?

I think that is fully covered with "provide users with excellent user experience and quality".
What else does one want except excellent quality ;-)

- in "promote the development of Free and Open-Source Software", I would put
the "offer libraries" as first point.

Personally I would put that last. We hardly provide libraries for the larger Free software system. We provide libraries used in the Qt system, but that is only a tiny part of the free software world. Also only a very small part of the KDE community works on the libraries.

To me the most important one is mentoring and the community.

And a personal note: I think I wouldn't put "promote the Free and Open-Source ecosystem" in the mission. I'm in KDE so that users are able to use Free
software instead of proprietary software by us creating software.
I'm not in KDE to convince users to switch all their software to Free
software. IMO that's more a political goal which I would expect e.g. in GNU,
not necessarily in KDE.

I think that's also part of KDE's job. E.g. by first providing integration for Nextcloud instead of Dropbox. Or by KWin working better on Mesa drivers than on NVIDIA. I see this as part of our mission in the larger free software world. We don't have to be political like the FSF, but we have our place and we promote free software over proprietary ones.

Cheers
Martin

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