Nate Graham kirjoitti 11.6.2020 klo 2.16:
Carson's email about bridging #kde-devel to Telegram got me thinking: we
should have a discussion about the situation we're in regarding chat
services in KDE.
The current Matrix solution does not seem not optimal to me. I have
really tried my best to be a good citizen and use Matrix as much as
possible over the last year but I find myself gravitating back towards
Telegram because of how much better the overall UX is, especially for
fast-moving discussions and those involving images.
I haven't found a Matrix client that offers both a half-decent UX and
also a reasonable featureset. The service suffers from lag, sometimes
severe. Periodically the federation breaks, or the bridge between IRC
and Telegram breaks, leading to people's messages silently vanishing.
The implementation of the bridge itself impedes discussions between
Telegram users and IRC/Matrix users because when a Telegram user replies
to a post made by someone on IRC or Matrix, that person person can't see
the message being replied to. Overall it just does not feel like a great
user experience.
This situation really needs to be fixed, somehow. I'm not knowledgeable
enough regarding chat software to be able to propose solution, but I
don't feel like the status quo is something we should live with. Can we
fix Matrix? Or should we migrate to something that offers a better UX?
As an alternative, we can also "fix" IRC, meaning to improve its UX.
For offering a KDE-hosted always-online experience to everyone, there
are modern solutions such as
https://convos.chat/
https://thelounge.chat/
https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwibnc
Of these, KiwiBNC is a general purpose bouncer, which means you can
attach any mobile or desktop client to it. Account creation could be
tied to KDE Identity.
What is needed on the UX side is to make sure there is no requirement
for command-line style interaction.
Ilmari