Am 2017-01-11 13:40, schrieb Jan Kundrát:
On středa 11. ledna 2017 6:57:50 CET, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
That doesn't work. Such inflexibility take away the advantage of
having a CI.
What base system(s) do you prefer to target as a developer, Martin?
We release software which will be combined with a future set of
software.
E.g. for KWin it has always been a problem that we develop against e.g.
Mesa X, but it will be combined by the distros with Mesa X+1, which
hasn't
seen any testing from our side.
This resulted in lots of issues. For me as the maintainer of a high
profile
application for our users the main need is to combine with the
dependencies
the next version of KWin will use in real world.
This means: latest and greatest released software. Ideally fast rolling
release distributions.
Now that is for KWin master, for KWin stable or KWin LTS, the base
doesn't
matter that much.
And I think KWin is there different to other software we have. We hardly
anywhere have the need for the latest and greatest. KWin needs it as it
gets
integrated with it by the distros anyway.
An example is currently Xwayland. I would love to have a runtime
dependency to the
latest released version as it fixes various issues. It will also be what
will be used
by the next distributions, but we don't have it yet on our stable base.
It means I have
to carry workarounds around, it means we have to put into the release
announcement that
it should be combined with this version.
As I mentioned in another mail to this thread: KWin is pushing the
stack.
Whether we like it or not. And I must say it's frustrating.
Cheers
Martin
