On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 16:52:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Christoph Cullmann wrote: > On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:12, Albert Vaca Cintora <albertv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, <jus...@1707.io> wrote: > > > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was > > > used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code > > > wasn't taken from another project by Gemini and used without their > > > permission or used in a way that violates the license and opens up the > > > KDE e.V. to litigation.> > > > > I'm no lawyer but I would expect that training AI will fall under fair use > > of copyrighted code. If that's not the case already, it will probably be > > soon. The benefits of AI to society are too large to autoimpose such a > > roadblock. > > if that would happen, then there is just no copyright protection anymore and > all is fair game, I highly doubt that, but yes, that is what companies that > want to get rich with deep learning want to have.
But isn't that how knowlegde transfer works since ages especially in science? I learned programming mostly be reading other people's code. Have I been violating copyright or licenses for decades because I applied the patterns I saw in other Free Software code to my code? And what about stuff I look(ed) up on stackoverflow? I don't think I have ever seen code on stackoverflow that had a proper license. At least in Germany this means that this code is under a very strict license and cannot be used without the authors explicit consent. (Something like Fair Use doesn't exist in Germany.) On the other hand, I don't think that I have ever copied code literally from stackoverflow. I have also never copied code literally that I developed at my former workplace, but of course I have applied some of the concepts I learned from writing proprietary code to my Free Software code. Yes, there is the theoretical threat that an AI learned code that's under a less liberal license like the GPL or even under one of the "new" not-OSI- approved licenses used by certain companies to prevent Amazon from selling services based on their code (or even proprietary code; for all we know, Co- Pilot was trained with the entire source code written by Microsoft), but that's only a problem if the AI cites this code literally so that we could be sued for plagiarizing. How realistic is this threat? Regards, Ingo
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