El Diumenge, 21 de desembre de 2014, a les 21:15:02, Yuri Chornoivan va escriure: > ???????? Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:51:38 +0200, Albert Astals Cid > > <aacid at kde.org>: > > El Diumenge, 21 de desembre de 2014, a les 19:10:44, Yuri Chornoivan va > > > > escriure: > >> ???????? Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:41:18 +0200, Albert Astals Cid > >> > >> <aacid at kde.org>: > >> > El Dissabte, 20 de desembre de 2014, a les 18:47:37, Yuri Chornoivan > >> > >> va > >> > >> > escriure: > >> >> ???????? Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:33:10 +0200, Albert Astals Cid > >> >> > >> >> <aacid at kde.org>: > >> >> > docs.kde.org needs to be updated to track Applications/14.12 + > >> >> > Plasma/5.1 > >> >> > instead of 4.14 > >> >> > > >> >> > Does anyone how to do that? > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers, > >> >> > > >> >> > Albert > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> This can be done via index.php and generator in docs-kde-org git > >> > >> repo. > >> > >> >> But... there is no "14.12" in http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/ so > >> > >> we > >> > >> >> will lost all translations. > >> > > >> > Errr what? Why would be lose translations because of that? > >> > >> Oops... Dead code in the generator script: > >> > >> https://projects.kde.org/projects/websites/docs-kde-org/repository/revisi > >> ons /master/entry/generator#L91 > >> > >> > You'll never find 14.12 there, you can find it at > >> > http://websvn.kde.org/branches/Applications/ > >> > > >> >> There was also some sort of agreement that we do not generate docs > >> > >> for > >> > >> >> 5.x > >> >> (too many branches, chaos, uncertainty where is what...). > >> > > >> > Too many branches? chaos? Where has that "agreement" been generated? > >> > > >> > I've never seen anyone complaining about chaos. > >> > >> Me first, yeah! ;) > >> > >> Some words about "chaos". ~20% of KDE apps have KF5 versions. > > > > That is a "KDE app"? > > > > What is a "KF5 version"? > > > >> Some of them > >> have kf5-stable versions. If I for some reasons install KF5 what docs > >> should I choose? > > > > What is installing KF5? The libraries? Or you mean Plasma 5 the desktop? > > > >> KF5 (5.x?), KDE 4.14, KDE 14.12? What all those numbers > >> about? > > > > They are version numbers. > > > > KF5 is the version of the libraries. > > KDE 4.14 is some old thing we don't ship nor support anymore (except for > > LTS > > kdelibs and kdepim*) > > There's no KDE 14.12, there's KDE Applications 14.12, that is the set of > > Applications we just released, some of those have dependencies in KF5, > > some of > > those have dependencies on kdelibs4, but you should not care the less. > > As a member of one distribution team (Mageia) I'd rather disagree. You > cannot install both versions at the same time.
Both versions of what? > For sure, there is a little difference now. But soon... At least some apps > (e.g. Kalzium) will loose some of there features (e.g. molecule viewer) > because of porting and we should remove doc parts. > > >> This has two solutions: > >> > >> 1. Just keep two branches, stable and unstable. This way we should guess > >> > >> from SVN translation branches what version to choose to show on d.k.o. > >> > >> This is hardly reachable automatically. > > > > That is how it should be, i advocated the simplicty of this more than > > year > > ago, people said i was crazy and i gave in, we're now reaping the > > consquences > > of having 4 branches instead of 2 as i wanted. > > It would be hard to decide now what branch to choose. It needs some > parsing of 4 subversion branches instead 2 branches that we have for now. > > The other problem that we need two versions of kdoctools (4.5-based for > KF5-based apps and 4.2-based for kdelibs4-based apps). That has been > already pointed by Luigi. > > >> 2. Keep all possible branches. It takes some time and efforts to rewrite > >> scripts for two (three, more?) new branches (kf5-stable, kf5-master) and > >> > >> from kdelibs to kdoctools framework (not saying that there might be > >> > >> some > >> problems with different versions of kdoctools). > >> > >> As it will be hard for average user and search robot to find the right > >> docs from 4 (or more) cases and KF5 is still not widely adopted, nobody > >> complained so far that there are no docs for KF5 applications. > >> > >> Moreover, we should redo almost all screenshots with the new default > >> style > >> (Breeze?) and have not enough KF5 users to do this. > >> > >> So this is not an urgent task so far, imho. Sorry for the pessimistic > >> point of view. > > > > I think the thing is that you're looking at this wrong, there's no KDE4 > > apps > > nor KF5 apps, there's just apps, and those apps have documentation. > > Ok. I just look at this my way. ;) > > To be honest, I do not mind if any possible way to handle the current > situation would be implemented. For now, waiting for more apps to be > ported on KF5 is a reasonable solution for me. We may as well shut down the page if it's going to show old information for no reason. Cheers, Albert > > Best regards, > Yuri > > >> Best regards, > >> Yuri > >> > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Albert > >> >> > >> >> Just my 2 cents (usually Burkhard does all switches). > >> >> > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Yuri > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kde-doc-english mailing list > >> kde-doc-english at kde.org > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kde-doc-english mailing list > > kde-doc-english at kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english > > _______________________________________________ > kde-doc-english mailing list > kde-doc-english at kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english
