On 24/01/16 09:54, Elvis Angelaccio wrote:


2016-01-23 10:22 GMT+01:00 Elvis Angelaccio
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:



    2016-01-22 20:44 GMT+01:00 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Hi Jeremy,

        Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2016, 11:19:31 schrieb Jeremy Whiting:
         > Friedrich,
         >
         > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
        >
        > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > > Hi,
        > >
        > > let's get this one finished.
        > >
        > > Am Montag, 31. August 2015, 20:09:39 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
        > >> El Dilluns, 31 d'agost de 2015, a les 14:10:05, Helio Chissini de 
Castro
        > >> va
        > >>
        > >> escriure:
        > >> > Hello everyone.
        > >> >
        > >> > This list made his job from years, but now is time to let it go 
and
        > >> > assume
        > >> > this is a thing from the past. As same the aged website.
        > >>
        > >> I'm concerned about the website going away, yes it is *old* but 
there are
        > >> links going to it and there's visits as piwik shows, what are we 
going to
        > >> do with it? totally kill it? I think we should make some redirects 
to
        > >> places that make sense at least for app pages
        > >
        > > Redirects could be done to the respective app pages below
        > >https://www.kde.org/applications/
        > > which are having similar info.
        > >
        > > Not sure all apps have pages there already (e.g. KXStitch is to be 
found
        > > where? is not in /applications/graphics/ at least), so would be 
also good
        > > to fix that while doing so.
        > >
        > > Anyone quick up to do that, first
        > > a) add missing pages tokde.org/applications 
<http://kde.org/applications>, then
        > > b) adding redirects?
        >
         > I can do a and b if you like,

        That would be great.

         > do we have a list of which applications
         > need redirects and to be added? I didn't see kxstitch on
        www.kde.org <http://www.kde.org>,
         > but it is on userbase at https://userbase.kde.org/KXStitch . the
         > contents of www.kde.org/applications
        <http://www.kde.org/applications> are generated by the .json files
         > here I believe:
         > https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/

        Mh, after all the years of git I now fail to checkout a
        subversion repo. Or is
        it due to svn+ssh:// not enabled (or not for anyone)?

        Most items on the extragear website seem to have proper
        replacement on
        kde.org/applications/ <http://kde.org/applications/>.
        A few have not, but they could be added as first step:
        KXStitch, SymbolEditor, Kst

        Others seem mo longer maintained/developed, should their
        homepages just be
        dropped completely? Who might be interested in this ancient
        information?

        Kipi is a challenge, it is a framework with plugins and not an
        application. So
        where can it have its mini-homepage on kde.org <http://kde.org>?
        And same challenge are possibly the Kopete plugins, but they
        might be outdated
        now.

        See below for full overview on software listed on
        extragear.kde.org <http://extragear.kde.org> and please
        comment.

        Cheers
        Friedrich



        Addon
        =====
        Kopete Skype -> no longer developed as of its page

        Graphics
        ========
        KColorEdit -> https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kcoloredit/
        KGraphViewer ->
        https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kgraphviewer/
        KPhotoAlbum ->
        https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kphotoalbum/
        digiKam -> https://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/digikam/

        KXStitch -> needs entry on kde.org/applications
        <http://kde.org/applications>
        SymbolEditor -> needs entry on kde.org/applications
        <http://kde.org/applications>
        Kipi -> needs entry, but kde.org/applications
        <http://kde.org/applications> seems not fitting, no app

        DigikamImagePlugins -> possibly what is now kipi, seems no
        longer developed
        KolorManager -> dead link on extragear.kde.org
        <http://extragear.kde.org> itself
        kpovmodeler -> seems no longer developed
        showimg -> seems dead

        Multimedia
        ==========
        Amarok -> https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/amarok/
        K3b -> https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/k3b/
        Kaffeine -> https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kaffeine/
        kmplayer -> https://www.kde.org/applications/multimedia/kmplayer/

        kplayer ->  seems no longer developed

        Network
        =======
        KFTPGrabber ->
        https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kftpgrabber/
        KMldonkey -> https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/kmldonkey/
        KTorrent -> https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/ktorrent/
        Konversation ->
        https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/konversation/
        knemo -> https://www.kde.org/applications/internet/knemo/

        Kopete Bonjour -> ?
        Kopete Cryptography -> ?
        KDEBluetooth -> seems kde4-only

        Office
        ======
        KEuroCalc -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/keurocalc/
        Skrooge -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/skrooge/
        Tellico -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/tellico/
        kile -> https://www.kde.org/applications/office/kile/

        Science
        =======
        Kst -> has own subdomain https://kst-plot.kde.org/, needs
        kde.org/applications <http://kde.org/applications>

        System
        ======
        KDE Partition Manager ->
        https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager/

        Utility
        =======
        Kiosktool -> https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kioskadmintool/
        Krecipes -> https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krecipes/
        Krusader -> https://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krusader/
        Yakuake -> https://www.kde.org/applications/system/yakuake/

        kdiff3 -> https://www.kde.org/applications/development/kdiff3/

        KConfigEditor -> seems no longer developed
        Kronometer -> ?


    Kronometer homepage is here [1].
    I've requested write access to SVN, I can at least add the
    kronometer images.
    Not sure about how to add kronometer.json and
    kronometer_generated.json in "www/applications/apps".
    I see there a bunch of python scripts and I don't know how/whether
    one is supposed to use them.
    If someone could add those two json above on my behalf, it would be
    great :)


Never mind, kronometer is now listed under /applications/utilities :)

It looks like only KXStitch and SymbolEditor are missing their entry, right?


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I have written json files for both KXStitch and SymbolEditor with the updates for index.json.

A few things I wasn't sure of though:

The "icon" field - SymbolEditor uses a svgz icon, can this be used or do I need to create a png of a particular size?

The "handbook" field - SymbolEditor has handbooks available in the extragear-graphics module [1], but it is under a heading "Symbol Editor". If I try to create a link[2][3] or variants using SymbolEditor it shows a page saying the application was not found. I don't know where the information in [1] is generated from so I don't know where to fix it.

The "parent" field - I have set this to extragear/graphics but is there an intention this should be changed to something else?

Apart from the two application json files and the change to index.json, are there any other files that need updating? For example I notice there is an [application-name]_generated.json file in [4], is this automatically generated or do I need to create that as well?

[1]http://docs.kde.org/index.php?language=en&package=extragear-graphics
[2]http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symboleditor
[3]http://docs.kde.org/?language=en&application=symbol%20editor
[4]http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/applications/apps/

Regards

Steve
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