> On Oct. 30, 2016, 10:27 a.m., David Faure wrote: > > Right. We have Shift+Del as an alternate shortcut for cut because when I > > switched from Windows to Linux (last millenium!), I had taken the habit to > > use Ctrl+Insert, Shift+Del, and Shift+Insert for copy/cut/paste (these are > > certainly more logical than Ctrl+C/X/V...). > > > > Indeed this shortcut doesn't work for file managers, who have to get rid of > > it. But the majority of apps are not file managers, so the current > > situation seems fine to me (file managers remove the shortcut, everyone > > else gets it). => I vote for discard. > > Mark Gaiser wrote: > What would be your shortcut of choice for permanently deleting files? > Meta + Delete? > or just nothing and force the user to clear the trash to permanently > delete files? > > David Faure wrote: > IMHO permanent deletion is Shift+Delete, in filemanagers -- the two > alternatives you offer seem extremely bad to me ;) > > Permanent deletion of emails is Shift+Delete too (and there cut isn't > supported), so that's consistent. > > Even while I was using Shift+Delete as my preferred shortcut for cut (bad > laptop keyboards forced me to switch away from that), it never bothered me > that it would delete and not cut in filemanagers. Maybe because I never used > cut very much in filemanagers, I admit. > I suppose this forces one to learn Ctrl+X for cutting in dolphin. > > All this being said, I can very well imagine that not many people use > Ctrl+Insert, Shift+Del, and Shift+Insert... I don't have a strong case if I'm > not using that myself anymore. It just seems harmless to support this in apps > where it doesn't conflict with anything else, and to give priority to other > shortcuts in apps where they do conflict (i.e. permanent deletion with an > easy shortcut has priority over the > less-commonly-used-alternate-shortcut-for-cut).
My suggestion at https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129299/ - Albert ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129251/#review100392 ----------------------------------------------------------- On Oct. 24, 2016, 10:47 a.m., Elvis Angelaccio wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129251/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > (Updated Oct. 24, 2016, 10:47 a.m.) > > > Review request for KDE Frameworks, KDE Usability and Matthew Dawson. > > > Bugs: 357747 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357747 > > > Repository: kconfig > > > Description > ------- > > This patch removes Shift+Del as secondary shortcut for the Cut action. This > shortcut was set back in 2001. > > Reasons for removing it: > > * The expected standard behavior for this shortcut is "Permanently delete" > * For the reason above, it is also set as primary shortcut for the > `DeleteFile` action. This causes conflicts in applications. > * For the reason above, many applications (e.g. Dolphin or Digikam) already > resolve this conflict on their own. > > Credits to Jan for the investigation: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347373#c2 > > > Diffs > ----- > > src/gui/kstandardshortcut.cpp 92eb091382c7ab2110240cef21f29268be787250 > > Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/129251/diff/ > > > Testing > ------- > > Using Shift+Del in Gwenview now works as expected. > > > Thanks, > > Elvis Angelaccio > >
