ngraham added a comment.

  In D12327#250898 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D12327#250898>, @rkflx wrote:
  
  > In D12327#250864 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D12327#250864>, @ngraham 
wrote:
  >
  > > - Bandwagon: Windows and macOS's default details style views allow 
expansion by default too
  >
  >
  > I'm all for going tree-style, but honestly I don't see expansion in 
Windows? Are we testing different versions? (In case they are fictitious, that 
would not help your point.)
  
  
  Ah, you're right, never mind. In Windows 10, even with 8 (8!) view modes, 
none of them allow tree-style expansion.
  
  In D12327#250898 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D12327#250898>, @rkflx wrote:
  
  > In D12327#250864 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D12327#250864>, @ngraham 
wrote:
  >
  > > I think it's best to have two buttons, each corresponding to a very 
different style of view that's optimized for a clear use case.
  >
  >
  > That would be ideal, of course.
  
  
  Yes I think we should shoot for that, if possible.
  
  > In D12327#250875 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D12327#250875>, @ngraham 
wrote:
  > 
  >> Or, a compromise: If we wanted to go all the way and have Dolphin-style 
options (Icons View, Compact view, Detailed view), I could support that for 
consistency's sake as long as we have three buttons like Dolphin does, rather 
than a combobox or a drop-down menu. That would still run into the technical 
challenges that I outlined above though.
  > 
  > 
  > As hinted at before, I could agree to that. However, we need more space 
then. How about moving Up, i.e. only a single button, in front of the 
breadcrumb bar? Would help in Dolphin too, and has been seen in Windows before, 
while avoiding some of the problems with moving every navigation button there, 
like you proposed elsewhere.
  
  In fact, if we integrated the Up button into the `KURLNavigator` widget, it 
would solve some issues automatically (e.g. lack of up button in Gwenview). I 
could see some people complaining about it though, because then the navigation 
buttons would be in two different vertical planes (since the URL navigator is 
always below the toolbar). Maybe we could live with that though?

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