-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/21/2011 03:59 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Till Theato wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:11 PM, > Dan Dennedy wrote: >>>> http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.php >>>> >>>> >>>> After this and Novacut, I feel that most open source projects run >>>> through Kickstarter end up receiving a lot of resentment. >>>> The community funding model does not match the user >>>> expectations. > >> Why we need to refactor Kdenlive before continuing to work on its >> features: > > Additionally: When I first had the idea of working full time on > Kdenlive I thought about some neat new features (definitely no > special effects though ;)). Such a defined goal would probably make > a fund raising more attractive. However since I'll have very little > time till April and since nobody did have much time in the past few > months this probably won't work out. I am not willing to add any > big features to the existing code. While it has served Kdenlive > great in the past it's structures can't hold all of Kdenlive's > features anymore. That's what we concluded in Randa. > >> See? ;) That's how I'd sell it.
If you think that'll convince potential donators... >> And maybe add a little more, like: Which features would/could you >> add afterwards, when refactoring is done? Is stability increased >> as well? Well, I personally probably won't be available much afterwards and therefore won't be able to add any new features. But of course we can mention the plans you others have. >> What other benefits are there for the users? Does Granjow have >> git access as well now? (Yes, he does! :D) (Now that I read it >> again, maybe the last point is not so important to mention) > >> Regarding the refactoring process itself. Do you think it would >> make sense if * we other devs would again look at the code and >> check what could be improved in the code * someone external did a >> code review (if we find volunteers) before you start working? Both ideas sound good. I also plan to publish some ideas on the general approach to refactoring Kdenlive. > >> Simon > > So I would have to work on refactoring. But how do you sell > refactoring? > >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Simon A. Eugster >>>> <simon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 19.09.2011 19:32, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/17/2011 11:10 PM, Ernie Zahn wrote: >>>>>>> Hey Simon Sounds great! I'll draft a script then? >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait, wait, wait ... (just a little bit ;)) but thanks >>>>>> for the will to take care of this! >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no 100% certainty that I'll be able to spend >>>>>> this time on Kdenlive, so we need an alternative just in >>>>>> case. I'd also like to hear opinions from the others >>>>>> about how money donated to Kdenlive should be used. Maybe >>>>>> someone else would also be able to spend some time on >>>>>> Kdenlive? Maybe Hardware? >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @Till, I think the fact that Novacut just did one is a >>>>>>> good reason to do one now. Kdenlive is public and is >>>>>>> waaay past proof of concept. Users can test drive it >>>>>>> for themselves. We could advertise at as funding for >>>>>>> version 1.0. I can speak to that personally since I >>>>>>> haven't been developing but it's a thought. >>>>>> >>>>>> We then have to make sure we don't promise to much, so >>>>>> we don't frustrate anyone. >>>>> >>>>> Hehe. Sometimes I wonder if we at kdenlive are too honest. >>>>> Others promise a better world and want money before they >>>>> even know how to do it. >>>>> >>>>> I saw some smaller projects on kickstarter as well. What >>>>> about putting just your 2 months on kickstarter as soon as >>>>> you know you can spend your time on > > I will be able to work on it for 8-10 weeks somewhere between > April (including) and July (including). > >>>>> doing it? I'm not sure if a bigger campaign would help us >>>>> too much at the moment, since our main limit is not money >>>>> but time. And more programmers ;) > > Even at this scale it will definitely require quite some work. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk70hm8ACgkQzwEyz7QP6nQZZwCgjx3KEVzJAXq577WmwaT1WcvC hUoAoOE/y35tHoL6OPcEF1c9bsZ0gSTc =ZwBz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ Kdenlive-devel mailing list Kdenlive-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
