-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2012 04:53 AM, Ernie Zahn wrote: > Heyhey. Im still here. Its been a really hectic couple of months. > > I think a 3 min expose on the mission, progress and prospects of > kdenlive would be perfect. Setting up interviews with developers > and users etc.
Yep, sounds great. Maybe we could also show a quick sequence of some articles on Kdenlive? When speaking of users we could maybe directly ask some people who are active on kdenlive.org for a long time, or who published articles/videos on or great videos done with Kdenlive? > > We can also feature clips from films that show off kdenlives best > features. Hm, I guess we'll have to drop that one. The effects we have are not sophisticated enough to show them off and our main business, editing/cutting, should not be noticeable in the final result at all :). Some pans over the GUI during the interviews instead? But maybe I'm just to negative again ;) > > Im based out of the NYC area so if theres anyone around here > interested in being interviewed, thatd be great. At least none of the developers. But since we probably all have cameras this could probably also be done in a distributed manner. With most of the developers living in Europe another problem arises: Kickstarter (if we want to use it) requires a US bank account... > On Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM, "Till Theato" <r...@ttill.de> wrote: > > @Ernie: Are you still around here? What do you think of what your > idea developed into? > > > On 12/23/2011 02:47 PM, Till Theato wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2011 03:59 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: >>>>> On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Till Theato wrote: On 10/13/2011 >>>>> 09:11 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote: >>>>>>>> > http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.php >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> > > After this and Novacut, I feel that most open source projects run >>>>>>>> through Kickstarter end up receiving a lot of >>>>>>>> resentment. The community funding model does not >>>>>>>> match the user expectations. >>>> >>>>>> Why we need to refactor Kdenlive before continuing to >>>>>> work on its features: >>>> >>>>> Additionally: When I first had the idea of working full >>>>> time on Kdenlive I thought about some neat new features >>>>> (definitely no special effects though ;)). Such a defined >>>>> goal would probably make a fund raising more attractive. >>>>> However since I'll have very little time till April and >>>>> since nobody did have much time in the past few months this >>>>> probably won't work out. I am not willing to add any big >>>>> features to the existing code. While it has served Kdenlive >>>>> great in the past it's structures can't hold all of >>>>> Kdenlive's features anymore. That's what we concluded in >>>>> Randa. >>>> >>>>>> See? ;) That's how I'd sell it. >>>> >>>> If you think that'll convince potential donators... >>>> >>>>>> And maybe add a little more, like: Which features >>>>>> would/could you add afterwards, when refactoring is done? >>>>>> Is stability increased as well? >>>> >>>> Well, I personally probably won't be available much >>>> afterwards and therefore won't be able to add any new >>>> features. But of course we can mention the plans you others >>>> have. >>>> >>>>>> What other benefits are there for the users? Does Granjow >>>>>> have git access as well now? (Yes, he does! :D) (Now that >>>>>> I read it again, maybe the last point is not so important >>>>>> to mention) >>>> >>>>>> Regarding the refactoring process itself. Do you think >>>>>> it would make sense if * we other devs would again look >>>>>> at the code and check what could be improved in the code >>>>>> * someone external did a code review (if we find >>>>>> volunteers) before you start working? >>>> >>>> Both ideas sound good. I also plan to publish some ideas on >>>> the general approach to refactoring Kdenlive. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>> >>>>> So I would have to work on refactoring. But how do you >>>>> sell refactoring? >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Simon A. Eugster >>>>>>>> <simon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 19.09.2011 19:32, Till Theato wrote: >>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 09/17/2011 11:10 PM, Ernie Zahn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Simon Sounds great! I'll draft a script >>>>>>>>>>> then? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wait, wait, wait ... (just a little bit ;)) but >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the will to take care of this! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no 100% certainty that I'll be able to >>>>>>>>>> spend this time on Kdenlive, so we need an >>>>>>>>>> alternative just in case. I'd also like to hear >>>>>>>>>> opinions from the others about how money donated >>>>>>>>>> to Kdenlive should be used. Maybe someone else >>>>>>>>>> would also be able to spend some time on >>>>>>>>>> Kdenlive? Maybe Hardware? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Till, I think the fact that Novacut just did >>>>>>>>>>> one is a good reason to do one now. Kdenlive is >>>>>>>>>>> public and is waaay past proof of concept. >>>>>>>>>>> Users can test drive it for themselves. We >>>>>>>>>>> could advertise at as funding for version 1.0. >>>>>>>>>>> I can speak to that personally since I haven't >>>>>>>>>>> been developing but it's a thought. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We then have to make sure we don't promise to >>>>>>>>>> much, so we don't frustrate anyone. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hehe. Sometimes I wonder if we at kdenlive are too >>>>>>>>> honest. Others promise a better world and want >>>>>>>>> money before they even know how to do it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I saw some smaller projects on kickstarter as well. >>>>>>>>> What about putting just your 2 months on >>>>>>>>> kickstarter as soon as you know you can spend your >>>>>>>>> time on >>>> >>>>> I will be able to work on it for 8-10 weeks somewhere >>>>> between April (including) and July (including). >>>> >>>>>>>>> doing it? I'm not sure if a bigger campaign would >>>>>>>>> help us too much at the moment, since our main >>>>>>>>> limit is not money but time. 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