a new proposal: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=131250&p=352861#p352861
i hope you find this more interesting :) 2016-03-05 15:10 GMT-03:00 Harald Albrecht <harald.albre...@gmx.net>: > Hi Sam, > > (sorry for the delay, this got into the wrong mail folder) > > your explanations are clear and I understand them. You stance isd > basically is similar in some way to how I see it, albeit my stance on the > film metaphor is less strict. > > My impression is that the professional NLVE makers went for the more > abstract designs because you can't get a trademark on a graphical icon if > it is too generic with respect to the film strip. The more abstract, the > more colors, then you stand out -- on the price of not conveying an NLVE's > purpose anymore. > > While it is nice to deploy subtle graphics, I don't see how this can work > in the restricted space of an application icon. Maybe that's also the > reason for me not being exactly thrilled with a logo design that is already > too-detailed. In fact, I actually like the rather flat appearance of the > Breeze and Microsoft new icon sets. Seems I'm getting into that age where > you tone-down colors and rather focus on shape. ;) > > Unfortunately, the simple play icon nowadays used for video also stands > for ... well, play. But not create. How could we signal that this is about > "creating video" in the sense of creating the final rendered video, and not > simply consuming video? > > With best regards, > Harald > > > > Am 04.03.2016 um 12:32 schrieb Sam Muirhead: > > Hi Harald, thanks for your input. For me the problem with the film strip > is not that it doesn't adequately represent 'moving image', of course you > are right, it is very effective for that. > > My problem with it is that it doesn't come across as particularly > professional. > It is used a lot in consumer or amateur environments to very quickly get > across the idea that 'this is something for video'. But here you can see a > comparison of a few logos with more amateur-focused programs on the left > and professional programs on the right: > http://www.cameralibre.cc/wp-content/uploads/amateur-vs-pro.png > > Well, personally I find both Lightworks and Final Cut's logos a bit dated, > but even so, pro software just isn't using the film strip anymore - not > because it doesn't communicate 'video' well, but because it doesn't > communicate 'pro video' very well. In the pro world, the only likely place > you will find a film strip in a logo is in software which genuinely > interacts with film (film restoration/telecine/conform etc). > You see it as well in the naming of programs. Something with 'Movie' in > the title and a film strip in the logo is targeted at consumer use. > Something with 'Video' in the title and a more abstract/less 'friendly' > logo is targeted at professionals. > > You gave the example of the floppy disk. Yes, it works very well for a > 'save' icon, it's a distinctive shape and it has become part of our digital > culture. But you wouldn't use a floppy disk image as the icon for > professional enterprise-level backup software. > > Regarding the 'rewind K' I'm not proposing it as a logo but rather one > metaphor which could be subtly incorporated in a design, if it fits. It > should first be seen as a K, and only on second glance, or once it is > pointed out, should you see it as a rewind symbol as well. > For me 'rewind' is a perfectly adequate symbol for a story-oriented video > editor - as opposed to a media player, where I just want to hit play, when > I'm editing a story I want to go back and forth through the material again > and again. > I hope this makes my perspective clearer! > kind regards, > Sam > ---- > Sam Muirhead > Open Source / Video > http://cameralibre.cc > http://openitagency.eu > https://OSCEdays.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > kdenlive mailing list > kdenlive@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdenlive > > -- 1111.1010.r.i.1101|n.o.i.s.1110|i.m.1010.g.1110|مقاومة fsf member #5439 usuario GNU/Linux #471966 |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| <a href="http://www.gunga.com.br">gunga</a> <a href="http://www.tempoecoarte.com.br">tempoecoarte</a> <a href="http://www.atelier-labs.org">atelier-labs</a> <a href="http://www.mocambos.net">rede mocambos</a>
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