On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:05:33AM -0700, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > Looking at the code, the first thing that I did was change all > members to private and used the compiler to force the use of > proper accessor member functions throughout. This is necessary > to do the least little thing with pcbnew. But it appears that > the current "masters" do not like to program in C++: they make > all members public and access them directly from everywhere.
That's false, it's only the kicad legacy... it's not the first time public variables are exchanged with accessors; and, anyway, the whole 'accessor' thing is debated in some circles: CLOS is a way better object model and has *no* access control to members or slots. I agree that in C++ is customary to use accessors, anyway. > When you try to correct it, they complain that it might break When this? Never heard something along the lines of 'keep these stuff public'; I'm also against globals BTW and there was consensus about their progressive removal. > Then they make "coding standards" that specify which whitespace > to put around their bad code. Well, their paren standard is funny actually :D never seen done that way. But as a lisper I really don't see the parens:P > These things, coupled with an accute resistance to any change > that isn't a bug fix, makes it impossible for any experienced > C++ programmer to contribute more than one liners to this > project. I experienced pretty much the same response as you > did (but I didn't push as hard or even get commit access). Sorry? I contributed about some 3-4 new features and I didn't see any resistance... well, parens spacing excluded:P:P > Others have gone their own way in the past. It is a pity I have a whole different font machinery in my private branch. I don't ask for committing it because a) ISO font spacing is way different and breaks the lib, b) I only have Latin-1 and Tech-1 repertoire and c) I need to clean up some font license issues. That said I regularly merge and push it as a branch, there's no need to call it a fork. When (if) the above problem are solved I'll simply do a patchball and submit it for review. > Here is a short list of things that cannot be done without > tearing out all the bad code in pcbnew: Tearing bad code is a thing, adding overengineered bloat (the int class, for example) is another one. Yes, I'm not a fan of OOP :D -- Lorenzo Marcantonio Logos Srl _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

