Dick, Do you see any value in me trying to get a decent package put into the Ubuntu and Debian release or should I abandon that project?
Adam Wolf W&L On Oct 18, 2013 8:33 AM, "Dick Hollenbeck" <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/18/2013 03:11 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: > > Hello, > > I updated the script according to Dick's suggestion and added some > > modifications in it for "yum" people so that we are now a bigger > > family. I also uploaded it to the web: > > http://www.kicad-pcb.org/display/KICAD/Download > > > > just a question, Dick, why don't we like "sudo apt-get build-dep > > kicad"? you removed it. Shouldn't be better to have it there? just in > > case in the future we add some libs, some apt-get guy detect it but we > > do not update this script accordingly. > > build-dep relies on the person maintaining the package for the distro. > His/her choices > and ours are different. For one thing, we've decided that he/she is way > too slow. For > another, we've decided to build and *patch* boost ourselves. Getting our > dependencies > from his choices made a year ago do not make sense to me. No one knows > more about how to > compile KiCad on Ubuntu than the core developers. For example, the > boost-dev distro > package is not a prerequisite to build KiCad using CMake, but that would > erroneously come > in using build-dep. > > > I have employees and contractors using this script now, it will have to > work for me at all > times, this makes me a watchdog and a maintainer of the script. > > > > > > Dick, thanks for the "make package" thing. I think it is great ! > > The *.deb is not great. CMake is great. The *.deb that is built does not > proclaim any > prerequisites at run-time nor at build-time. So that *.deb is only > suitable for the > machine on which it was built. Or a distro exactly at that same version, > which also has > all the run-time dependencies installed. Neither our script, nor the > *.deb says anything > about the run-time dependencies. Run-time dependencies are a subset of > build-time > dependencies. > > For a person familiar with what "checkinstall" does, using a *.deb > generated this way will > give a person a record in the local package management system as to the > files that were > installed. It is not much more than that. > > Note that > > $ sudo make uninstall > > seems to work fairly well also, as well as > > $ sudo dpkg -r kicad > > would work after installing the lean *.deb file. > > > > > I > > have done some googleing and noticed that for instance slackware Linux > > does maintain a "recent" version (03/2013) of KiCad: > > http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=kicad&sv=14.0 > > > I have generic-ized the script to support different notions of the > install_prerequisites > step. In theory more distros could be added for those folks wanting to > build from source. > > > > > > > Debian people do it too but it is 1.5 years old. I contacted the > > maintainer but mail bounced back. > > > > There is also and unofficial Debian/Ubuntu apt-get repo that looks > > very official and that we could use: > > http://www.apt-get.org/ > > > > The question is kind of philosophical, who should maintain packages > > and distribute open-source software? the developers of the software or > > the guys doing Linux distros? > > > > Well guys, I think lots of progress on this subject has been made > > since two weeks ago, I think cmake is the way to make .deb. I think > > the script on the web is great for the people who want to compile. We > > just need an additional step adding Adam's server in the equation? > > > > Adam, I'll have a look at Karl's stuff and contribute to the cmake but > > first I'd like to fix all this .desktop files and especially this > > icons issue. It seems to me that there is a little bit of a mess > > there. > > > > Regards > > Fabrizio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Adam Wolf > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There have been some discussion in Debian land about changing how they > >> package Python-y stuff, that will make a world of difference for me. It > >> looks like it's going through, so there's light at the end of that > tunnel > >> too. > >> > >> Adam Wolf > >> W&L > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dick Hollenbeck <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> CMake now builds a primitive *.deb file on Ubuntu/Mint/Debian. > >>> > >>> > >>> $ make package > >>> > >>> > >>> It has no dependencies, so it about like using checkinstall. > >>> > >>> > >>> Dick > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> Post to : [email protected] > >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > . > > > >
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