I found the road map for KiCad as well. The plans look fine, but are they being realized?
http://ci.kicad-pcb.org/job/kicad-doxygen/ws/Documentation/doxygen/html/md_Documentation_development_road-map.html Martin. ----- Původní zpráva ----- Odesílatel: x...@sms.cz Příjemce: "kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net" <kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net> Datum: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:32:13 +0100 Předmět: Re: [Kicad-developers] About collaboration, simulation, documentation, organisation, usability and documentation > Hello, > > a good topic and good ideas, in my opinion. Though it should be the core > developers who should say that. > > A few weeks ago I was performing my own small research in what EDA tools are > available. I was looking for a schema_drawing-simulator-pcb_creator all-in-one > app. And found none (free). I was playing a lot especially with QUCS and eSim > (previously Oscad). Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seemed to me that the > development in QUCS almost ceased, leaving the application in unfinished state > with simulation stability problems. And eSim (which is basically a KiCad > wrapper) adds very little functionality to KiCad, but creates a completely new > project manager with very restricted functionality and a lot of bugs. > > And here I'm coming to what you were writing about: All three projects (QUCS, > eSim and KiCad) seem to suffer with lack of people willing to contribute. I > agree with you that mutual cooperation could help all three projects, > especially in the problem of lacking man-power. In particular, I was wondering > why eSim went its own way instead of by contributing to KiCad. My suspicion is > that one of the reasons may be the initial rejection by the core team > developers to any unsolicited changes. I don't want to criticise that, I'm > just stating that this can be seen in the history of many patches in the > bug-tracker, where many suggestions were initially rejected, and only after a > long discussion they found their way to the KiCad build. > > The question is - who will be the people driving the changes? This is a free > project, more than that - it uses GPL. And that's the reason why the > development goes the way it does. On of the KiCad developers said in a > discussion, that he is contributing to KiCad not make the word better, but to > make it suit his needs. And I completely understand that... :-( > > To be a little constructive: Your suggestions are good, but there has to be > someone who takes care of them. And any such changes need an action plan/a > roadmap. Like this one: > http://www.ohwr.org/projects/cern-kicad/wiki/WorkPackages. (I have no idea how > is CERN KiCad related to this KiCad.) Because it's hard to contribute to a > project that has no idea of the way it wants to go. > > Martin. > > ----- Původní zpráva ----- > Odesílatel: timofonic timofonic <timofo...@gmail.com> > Příjemce: "x...@sms.cz" <x...@sms.cz> > Datum: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 04:12:42 +0100 > Předmět: About collaboration, simulation, documentation, organisation, > usability and documentation (Was: Re: [Kicad-developers] Bug #1511552 - Fixes > to Incorrect export of Spice net-list from EESchema) > > > > Hello > > > > I'm just a lurker and still not started to contribute, but I have some > > ideas: > > > > - Indian Institute of Technology Bombay: I see technological and > > educational institutions as potential contributors at this stage of > > development. Indian Institute of Technology Bombay developed the Oscad > > package and showed a very good attitude towards collaboration, I think they > > must go to FOSSDEM and talk very seriously about a long term collaboration > > plan. > > - Improving usability: I think UX should be taken under a very serious > > objective analysis by an independent group to make KiCad more popular, > > OpenUsability.org seems a good candidate. Old schoolers and some developers > > might resist to change, but KiCad's UX is one of the things that still make > > people uncomfortable to use it. > > - QUCS: It seems a great project with innovation in their core ideas. I > > think there should be some collaboration. It seems there are issues about > > SPICE models being copyrighted so they have to use script downloaders, this > > would make a future KiCad library with all components available in > > SPICE/Verilog-A a very hard challenge until solved. > > - Organization: Are there clear roles in KiCad? Wayne is the project > > manager and there are translators, that's all I know. Are there main or > > specific roles in the team? What about a fast voting process to take > > decisions? Are there a formal meritocratic core team? > > - Wiki: What about using a wiki for documentation? It provides an easier to > > use environment, it can be customized for i18n and even parsing KiCad > > files to show them as SVG if someone writes a plugin for it. The > > documentation could be exported and shipped in each release, too. > > > > > > > > Relevant links: > > https://forum.kicad.info/t/simulating-kicad-schematics-in-spice/ > > http://mithatkonar.com/wiki/doku.php/kicad/kicad_spice_quick_guide > > http://esim.fossee.in > > https://github.com/Oscad > > http://www.iitb.ac.in > > > > Kind regards. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Vystup z řady a zřiď si taky originální email! @bigboss.cz, @dablik.cz, > @potvurka.cz, @tajny.cz... zdarma na http://email.sms.cz > COMDOM Antispam - www.comdomsoft.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- ______________________________________________________________________ Vystup z řady a zřiď si taky originální email! @bigboss.cz, @dablik.cz, @potvurka.cz, @tajny.cz... zdarma na http://email.sms.cz COMDOM Antispam - www.comdomsoft.com _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
