On 9/11/2016 3:22 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: > 2016-09-09 16:02 GMT+02:00 Wayne Stambaugh <[email protected]>: >> On 9/7/2016 2:27 PM, Nick Østergaard wrote: >>> 2016-03-12 1:37 GMT+01:00 Simon Wells <[email protected]>: >>>> As part of the translation code rework that i am working on (and >>>> auto-detection) part of it is moving the need for changing anything in >>>> code to add a new language. As part of this involves the flags i was >>>> wondering whether anyone would be against moving them into the i18n >>>> repo (and distributed in the individual language folders, so that if >>>> kicad is compiled with having icons enabled in the menu they could >>>> still be used but they will be pulled at runtime so no addtional code >>>> nor icons required in the kicad tree >>>> >>> >>> This discussion seem to be related to the other thread: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg17648.html >>> >>> It does not seem anyone is directly against removing the flags all together. >> >> As I stated in the previous thread I'm OK with removing the flags. I'm >> just concerned about what text we will use in the language menu. >> Translated, English, always the current locale, or something else? I >> still haven't seen a good solution to that issue. >> > > Maybe have it both? Like: > > Français (French)
Seem plausible. We can always try it and change it if we don't like it. > > Then you have it "easily readable for the native" and still easy for > others to understand? > > I still think it is nice to keep the menu, or at least the > fucntionality. I may not need to be a seperate menu from the top bar > menu as is now, it might actually be more appropiate in "normal" > settings dialogs. I know those are not the same for eeschema and > pcbnew, but maybe more similar in the future. This is just some > ideas/proposals for the future. > >>> >>> I like the idea of validating the available languages runtime as >>> mentioned in the related thread. >> >> Makes sense to me. I see no reason to add entries in the language menu >> for translations that are not available. >> >>> >>>> Something unrelated to the flags but similar is do we need the >>>> translations tab with all the translators in the about box? or would a >>>> better place be in the i18n repo on github and linked from the website >>>> and only the current translation information provided in the about >>>> dialog. This can be pulled at runtime from the po files using the >>>> Language-Team header in the po file. There are a few ways this could >>>> be left how it is, including having a list of all INSTALLED >>>> translations in the translations tab instead of only showing current, >>>> would just require the program at startup processing all the language >>>> files to get the header information. >>>> >>>> for example the one in the ru po file is >>>> "Language-Team: Russian KiCad Translation Team: Andrey Fedorushkov, Eldar " >>>> "Khayrullin, Igor Plyatov <[email protected]>\n" >>>> >>>> As i only know english i haven't had the oppurtunity to use the po >>>> utility but i have been advised this is a setting rather than just >>>> something that is edited manually >>>> >>>> the one in the fr po file is >>>> "Language-Team: jp-charras\n" >>>> >>>> which if this idea is implemented jp might need to change his to be a >>>> bit more informative, (at least being his full name or something) >>>> >>>> I think i have mentioned before about making the language list in >>>> preferences reliant on whether the i18n files have been installed so >>>> that people don't get caught up with wondering why no other languages >>>> work. >>>> >>> >>> Lets assume that all contributors have "proper" names here. >>> >>> What will happen with translators which work might not even be present >>> anymore, how are we supposed to detect that? Or are we just going to >>> count all contributors from epoch? >>> >>>> Mainly i am looking for arguments against moving the flags into the >>>> i18n repo as that may prove that most of my code is not possible. >>>> seeing as some people seem to be against just ditching the flags >>>> >>> >>> Remove the flags. :P >>> >>> I don't know if the languages maybe sould be written in their >>> localized form, maybe? >>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
