I looked at the video and the concept is very nice, nice work! I agree with wayne that automatic netcode is a bit dangerous, I would recommend that you use a wxSingleChoice dialog in the beginning of adding a via, so that the user can choose netcode from a list. Or something better :)
> I would prefer that you avoid the term stitching. Vias could just as > easily be thermal vias. For the vias to be thermal vias, they should not be tented to avoid blow out, I dont know if that is possible to do now, but it really should be an option for induvidual vias, a tented token or similar. It seems to me that the stitch token decides wheter to write out the netcode on the via or not, is that correct? - Kristoffer On 2017-01-16 22:09, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Heikki, > > What is the purpose of the "stitch" token added to the file format? > Vias already have a netcode field so adding "stitch" to the file format > seems to serve no purpose. > > I would prefer that you avoid the term stitching. Vias could just as > easily be thermal vias. I don't think the generic term via is going to > confuse anyone. I would think most users placing vias for purposes > other than trace routing understand the purpose of the vias. > > You are still automatically assigning via netcodes based on placement. > We agreed (at least I thought we did) that this assumption is dangerous > and that the user should be selecting the net assignment. I'm OK if you > suggest to the user the best netcode based on the via placement position > but under no circumstance should the code be selecting the via netcode. > > There is some work currently going on with to fix some of the issues > with the connection algorithm that may conflict with your code. Please > make sure you check with the folks that are working on this code. If > you are working on the connection algorithm, please let Heikki know so > that we can avoid any conflicts. > > Please configure your editor so that it doesn't leave trailing white > space all over the source files. Your patch contains a bunch of it. > > Cheers, > > Wayne > > On 1/9/2017 11:33 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> Hi >> >> I add netnames to stitch vias. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Heikki >> >> https://youtu.be/7FgmY8Uzgbg >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Heikki Pulkkinen <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Wayne and others, >> >> It has been for a while. I was out of my faster computer again. >> Mother board has to been put oven again. >> I think, that my suggestion of via stitching is now quite robust. >> But it has to be tested more and some other than me. Main idea has >> developed so, that VIA class has new property of that stitching and >> it has to be saved on [.kicad_pcb] file too. Filling pours is part >> of that how to connect vias and pours, so it has to be done twice. >> And there is some new additions in shape_poly_set.cpp and drc.cpp. >> They do not disturb other program. And of course I have to add some >> little things in gal canvas too. I did not make any class of >> stitching, just put them in own namespace, because there is no data >> to hide. All stitch data is in VIA class. So, hope that my idea is >> usable and it is worth of improve. >> >> Regards >> >> Heikki >> >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Wayne Stambaugh >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Heikki, >> >> I appreciate any effort that you can make on this. I really >> would like >> to get the via stitching code in before the stable version 5 pre >> release >> which I'm hoping to do at the beginning of 2017 before FOSDEM. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Wayne >> >> >> On 11/12/2016 12:35 PM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> > Hi Wayne, >> > >> > OK, I understand that. I look what can I do, but I do not promise >> > anything, very soon anyway. I am not familiar with gal canvas. I >> done >> > this to legacy canvas, because I know how it works. Now stitching >> works >> > in my tests quite well "of course". And it is working my needs. >> > >> > I try via stitching on gal, and it is partly working. Stitch via >> > placing and chain connection does not seems to work. But >> converting old >> > designs with pad->track->via... chain removing pad connection from >> chain >> > converts vias as stitch vias when run track via cleanup. >> > >> > I do some code cleaning and send it to look at as soon as >> possible. You >> > can use it or not, It is fine for me. >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Heikki >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Wayne Stambaugh >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Heikki, >> > >> > I spoke to Tom this morning about your via stitching work. He >> mentioned >> > that your via stitching work should be developed for the gal >> canvas. >> > I'm not sure you are aware but I put a moratorium on adding >> new features >> > to the legacy canvas earlier in the year. This is because the >> legacy >> > canvas is going to be removed at some time in the not too >> distant >> > future. I should have mentioned this sooner but it really >> needs to be >> > done this way to be accepted into kicad. I realize this is >> going to be >> > more work for you but it would have to be done anyway. If you >> support >> > both canvases, I'm fine with that but the gal canvas must be >> supported >> > for any new feature added to pcbnew. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Wayne >> > >> > >> > On 11/8/2016 3:35 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> > > Hi >> > > >> > > Now via->pour chain is recovering. >> > > >> > > Heikki >> > > >> > > https://youtu.be/HuViOfQmcrU >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Heikki Pulkkinen >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > I made some new features. Now it is possible chaining >> copper pours >> > > with Vias. This video show, how it works at the moment. >> > > >> > > >> > > Heikki >> > > >> > > https://youtu.be/91tT626XnbM >> > > >> > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen >> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi Wayne, >> > > >> > > I think that there is two places when user is >> "wrong" wit >> > > his/her will. One is when there are not at least two >> pours to >> > > connect with and second is that there must be at >> least one pad >> > > in connection chain. If antennas are user will, it >> is better >> > > create component. I might be wrong, but that is how >> I think it. >> > > I did some experimental development in my code which >> now keeps >> > > vias netcodes Steven's ideas way, and take care of >> that there is >> > > connected pad. These two videos show how that works. >> I try more >> > > other things when I am back home again. >> > > >> > > Regards >> > > >> > > Heikki >> > > >> > > https://youtu.be/wXdVl4WXCJ8 >> > > https://youtu.be/5qe-XnVJwXs >> > > >> > > >> > > 27.10.2016 1.47 "Wayne Stambaugh" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> kirjoitti: >> > > >> > > I'm just not comfortable with the connection >> algorithm >> > > reassigning via >> > > net codes to a zone's net code based on the >> zone/via >> > > intersection. This >> > > puts the responsibility of the connection on >> the project >> > > rather than the >> > > user. I'm OK if we suggest a net when the >> user is placing >> > > vias but the >> > > user has the final say and the via net code >> does not >> > change >> > > unless the >> > > user explicitly changes it. I don't now how >> to make >> > it any >> > > clearer than >> > > that. Someone would have to make a really >> impressive >> > > argument (read >> > > doctoral thesis) as to why we should allow >> kicad to >> > determine >> > > connectivity rather than the user. >> > > >> > > On 10/25/2016 1:54 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> > > > Thanks Wayne to look at this and Steven >> for asking about >> > > connection logic. >> > > > >> > > > It is good to try explain what did you >> thought last >> > > summer. It clearer >> > > > things. >> > > > >> > > > There are main rule which connects top and >> bottom layer >> > > and second rule >> > > > connecting inner layers. And now I think >> that main >> > rule is >> > > useless, >> > > > because second rule do all this connecting >> via to first >> > > two zones with >> > > > same netcode. This works well as far as >> zones are up the >> > > date. And that >> > > > is not always true. For example in DRC, if >> you forgot to >> > > refill zones >> > > > before running DRC, vias can corrupted to >> wrong net. >> > Thats >> > > why running >> > > > first refilling zones in DRC, keeps vias right >> > connected. >> > > > I found two another, and there might be >> more, situation >> > > when user can >> > > > accidentally damage connection. Cleanup >> and saving a >> > > board. Saving is >> > > > not that broblem, but opening is. But I >> have solution of >> > > them. Just >> > > > running zone filling algorithm before >> running ratsnest >> > > algorithm. >> > > > But usually, when working with via >> stitching, user keeps >> > > zones up to >> > > > date running refill to see what he or she >> have done. I >> > > know there is >> > > > always better solutions, but I can manage >> this at the >> > > moment before >> > > > there are official one. I know, if >> algorithm is >> > different >> > > than mine it >> > > > does not ruin my designs. >> > > > >> > > > Cheers >> > > > >> > > > Heikki >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 24.10.2016 23.58 "Wayne Stambaugh" >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> kirjoitti: >> > > > >> > > > I finally had a chance to look at this >> patch and I >> > > have similar >> > > > concerns. I thought I was pretty >> clear about *not* >> > > being comfortable >> > > > with making assumptions about via zone >> > connections and >> > > always using the >> > > > assigned net code. I'm a bit >> concerned with the >> > > connection testing and >> > > > it's decision to change a via's net code >> > depending on >> > > which zone(s) that >> > > > it intersects. I see this as an >> unacceptable >> > risk for >> > > kicad to assume. >> > > > I would rather put the responsibility >> in hands >> > of the >> > > user and just have >> > > > kicad complain when there is a drc issue. >> > > > >> > > > Please configure your editor to clean >> up trailing >> > > white space and fix >> > > > the other coding policy errors. >> > > > >> > > > Cheers, >> > > > >> > > > Wayne >> > > > >> > > > On 10/23/2016 10:44 PM, Strontium wrote: >> > > > > Hello Heikki, >> > > > > >> > > > > Can you explain the logic you are >> using to >> > determine >> > > the net of >> > > > the vias >> > > > > during DRC reconnect? It looks like >> you are only >> > > considering the top >> > > > > and bottom layer, but stitching vias >> may be >> > > stitching internal layers? >> > > > > >> > > > > Steven >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 23/10/16 21:48, Heikki Pulkkinen >> wrote: >> > > > >> Hi Wayne and all, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> About that my suggestion of Via >> Stitching. I do >> > > some tests and found >> > > > >> that if DRC first fill zones and >> then do tests it >> > > does not break >> > > > >> anything. if you forgot to Fill or >> Refill zoenes >> > > before running DRC. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Regards >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:41 PM, >> Heikki Pulkkinen >> > > > <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Hi Wayne, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> If you try this, I send the >> last full >> > patch of >> > > that Via >> > > > Stitching. >> > > > >> Do not care other patches in >> mailing >> > list, they >> > > are more or less >> > > > >> incomplete. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Regards >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:22 >> PM, Wayne >> > Stambaugh >> > > > >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> I will look at when I get a >> chance. When >> > > that will be I >> > > > >> cannot say for >> > > > >> sure. I've just been >> really busy. I >> > will >> > > try to get around >> > > > >> to it this >> > > > >> weekend. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Cheers, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Wayne >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On 10/17/2016 3:40 PM, >> Jakub Kozdon >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > Hi, it looks usable. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Don't know if it is >> visible for >> > all, but >> > > Wayne, what do you >> > > > >> think about it? >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Jakub >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Dne 16.10.2016 v 19:23 >> Heikki Pulkkinen >> > > napsal(a): >> > > > >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> I add array feature to >> my Via >> > Stitching. >> > > And an another >> > > > >> slowly video >> > > > >> >> to watch. >> > > > >> >> https://youtu.be/28nfoZPg2bg >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Full fixed patch and >> array test patch. >> > > More work have >> > > > to be >> > > > >> done, but >> > > > >> >> this was easy start. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Regards >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at >> 7:23 PM, >> > Heikki >> > > Pulkkinen >> > > > >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> >> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Here is demovideo >> about via >> > > stitching. It is slowly, >> > > > >> because of >> > > > >> >> slowly machine. I do >> some >> > > development too, so full >> > > > patch is >> > > > >> >> attached too. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 >> at 5:49 PM, >> > > Marcos Chaparro >> > > > >> >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > > >> wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi Heikki, >> > > > >> >> is there any >> chance to >> > make some >> > > screenshots or >> > > > >> video about >> > > > >> >> this? Some of us >> do compile >> > > kicad to get the >> > > > latest and >> > > > >> >> greatest but >> never applied a >> > > patch for a >> > > > particular >> > > > >> feature. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Regards >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Marcos >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, >> 2016 at >> > 7:04 AM, >> > > Heikki Pulkkinen >> > > > >> >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Putting back >> that my via >> > > stitching tool to >> > > > >> routing tool. >> > > > >> >> It is better >> that way, I >> > > think. All via tools >> > > > >> are in same >> > > > >> >> place, and >> it adds vias to >> > > pours only from >> > > > hotkeys. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, Oct >> 2, 2016 at >> > 12:28 >> > > PM, Heikki >> > > > Pulkkinen >> > > > >> >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Finally >> Via Stitching >> > > without tracks is at >> > > > >> zone tool. >> > > > >> >> I tested >> it little >> > bit, >> > > but more tests are >> > > > >> needed. >> > > > >> >> This >> patch replace all >> > > other patches. Do >> > > > >> not use them, >> > > > >> >> use only >> this patch. I >> > > think this is worth >> > > > >> of try. I >> > > > >> >> am going >> to use it >> > > anyway, even if it do >> > > > >> not get any >> > > > >> >> >> acceptance. First >> > patch >> > > is for Fedora >> > > > >> users. It makes >> > > > >> >> possible >> to build >> > Kicad >> > > in Fedora release >> > > > >> wxWidgets >> > > > >> >> libs >> whitout building >> > > wxWidget from >> > > > source. >> > > > >> I do not >> > > > >> >> know has >> anybody else >> > > that problem, >> > > > but I had. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On Tue, >> Sep 27, >> > 2016 at >> > > 6:46 PM, Heikki >> > > > >> Pulkkinen >> > > > >> >> >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> And >> I really >> > > practice. I made >> > > > >> improvement and >> > > > >> >> >> forgot to copy >> > all. >> > > So improvement is >> > > > >> in these two >> > > > >> >> >> patches. I >> > hope this >> > > suggestion is >> > > > >> accepted as a >> > > > >> >> new >> feature. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> On >> Tue, Sep >> > 27, 2016 >> > > at 2:31 PM, >> > > > Heikki >> > > > >> Pulkkinen >> > > > >> >> >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >> wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> As in >> > practice, >> > > I made a patch >> > > > >> file of my >> > > > >> >> >> changes >> > Not only >> > > diifs. It is >> > > > >> SHIFT-ALT-V >> > > > >> >> >> hotkey whitch >> > > make buried and >> > > > blind >> > > > >> vias, as >> > > > >> >> >> it is in >> > routing >> > > too. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> On Sun, >> > Sep 25, >> > > 2016 at 2:25 >> > > > PM, Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> Pulkkinen >> > > <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> >> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Hi, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> I made >> > some >> > > improvements to my >> > > > >> patch of >> > > > >> >> >> via >> > > stitching. Now you can >> > > > just >> > > > >> point >> > > > >> >> >> copper >> > pour >> > > place and press V, >> > > > >> it make >> > > > >> >> >> trough >> > via. >> > > If you press >> > > > >> SHIFT+CTRL+V it >> > > > >> >> >> make >> > buried >> > > or blind via.It >> > > > >> does not >> > > > >> >> >> change >> > > working layer. Only >> > > > when >> > > > >> you place >> > > > >> >> >> buried or >> > > blind via from >> > > > >> different layer >> > > > >> >> >> than it's >> > > layer pair is. I >> > > > >> think that it >> > > > >> >> >> is quite >> > > easy to shoot board >> > > > >> full of >> > > > >> >> >> copper >> > pours >> > > connecting >> > > > vias. It is >> > > > >> >> >> > possible to >> > > remove connecting >> > > > >> tracks from >> > > > >> >> >> old >> > designs. >> > > Just delete >> > > > >> connection from >> > > > >> >> >> pad >> > and use >> > > clenup. Only have >> > > > >> to remember >> > > > >> >> >> that if >> > > there are not at least >> > > > >> two copper >> > > > >> >> >> pours in >> > > same netcode in >> > > > >> different layers >> > > > >> >> >> via is >> > > deleted too. Any >> > > > support? >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> On >> > Sat, Sep >> > > 24, 2016 at 3:06 >> > > > >> PM, Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> Pulkkinen >> > > > <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> > > > >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> >> > > > >> >> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Hi >> > > everybody, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > This is >> > > my suggestion to >> > > > >> via stitching >> > > > >> >> >> > without >> > > any tracks. It >> > > > connects >> > > > >> >> >> > > unconnected vias in >> > > > >> different copper >> > > > >> >> >> pours >> > > witch has same >> > > > >> netcode. Adding >> > > > >> >> >> > vias is >> > > normal routing >> > > > >> process without >> > > > >> >> >> > routing >> > > tracks. Start - >> > > > >> Change Layer - >> > > > >> >> >> End. >> > > Tool that do >> > > > those things >> > > > >> >> >> > > automatically would be >> > > > >> good, so you >> > > > >> >> >> > can add >> > > all vias in same >> > > > >> layer. After >> > > > >> >> >> adding >> > > vias, run "Fill or >> > > > >> Refill All >> > > > >> >> >> Zones" >> > > that "Clenup tracks >> > > > >> and vias" >> > > > >> >> >> do not >> > > remove partly >> > > > >> connected vias. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Heikki >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> >> Mailing list: >> > > > >> >> > https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers>> >> > > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> > <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers>>> >> > > > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> > 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