Cirilo, I think the major issue here is that I introduced a previously invisible-to-the-user field called "Description" which is lifted from the .dcm file. Fabrizio had a custom field called "Description" as he did not know that this other field existed.
Just as people would not have a custom field called "Footprint", I think that once people realize that the "Description" field is inherent to the symbol itself, they will rename such custom fields to something else. Also, I note that there seems to be a duplication of fields already - there's a "Datasheet" field and a "Documentation" field, one lives in the .dcm file and one in the .lib file. This seems to be much more of a source of confusion to me. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Cirilo Bernardo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 5/23/2017 4:17 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: > >> cheers Oliver, > >> I do not know what a .dcm file is. > >> > >> I am not sure it is a good idea to have a in-built field called > >> Description in the table viewer. But I can easily see how that is > >> useful. I guess you would like to use this table to add info. This makes > >> it non a table viewer. The current icon label says "Component table > >> view" which I find ambiguous. Maybe Wayne can jump in with a proper name > >> for it. > > > > The component information strings are not fields. They are part of the > > component definition and are not user definable. There are four > > component information definitions: name, description, key words (tags), > > and documentation file name. You could create fields with the same > > names so I can understand how this could be confusing. > > > > Toolbar button tooltips should be a verb followed by a short > > description. In this case "Edit component properties" would work. > > > > Perhaps the software should (re)assign the names of the first 4 fields and > use a 2-part name to distinguish them from anything else? Maybe a special > character at the front of the name would be enough - let's say '@'. That > shouldn't look too ugly and it's unlikely someone would begin a field name > with '@' (or some other suitable character). At any rate, if the user can > give an arbitrary field > 4 a name which happens to match a name of one > of the first 4 fields, we need some scheme so that users (and machines!) > can distinguish the special fields. > > - Cirilo > > >> > >> I am having the feeling the development of this table did not come from > >> a clean plan of having an XYZ tool. Or maybe is just me. Please dont get > >> me wrong, I love this table (and the soon to come new icon) but it might > >> be a good idea to drop the word viewer for it if we want the (great) > >> ability to edit stuff. > >> > >> I hope this helps. > >> > >> Fabrizio > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Oliver Walters > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Fabrizio, > >> > >> 1. You have added a custom field called "Description". > >> 2. The table viewer has an "inbuild" field called "Description". It > >> populates this field with the component description which is found > >> in the .dcm files > >> > >> Here's what I see. > >> > >> Inline image 1 > >> > >> Here I have added the custom "description" field with dummy data to > >> only one component. > >> > >> The first "Description" column is filled with the symbol > >> descriptions from the .dcm files in the library. > >> > >> If you are missing the .dcm files then your first column will be > empty. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Fabrizio Tappero > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Oliver, > >> not sure I understand the question. This is what my schematic > >> components fields look like: > >> > >> Inline image 1 > >> > >> > >> cheers > >> Fabrizio > >> > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Previous bug even works without modifying a field, all I > >> have to do is enter a field edit mode and click somewhere > >> else, and that field's value will be copied to where ever I > >> clicked, this will cause a lot of grief when users decide to > >> cancel editing and click elsewhere to discard changes, or so > >> they think that's what should have happened. > >> > >> > >> A few more things: > >> 1. When I click Apply changes, the RED markings/modified > >> fields should disappear when the changes have been > >> successfully applied > >> 2. Undo/Redo should work inside Component Table to undo each > >> user action, instead of having the user to discard all > >> changes and start over > >> 3. There's something weird going on when you try to edit a > >> field, it seems that have to click 4 times to enter edit > >> mode, 2 times is what I expect. Also perhaps some weird > >> delay that prevents me from entering edit mode. > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Oliver, found another unexpected behaviour. > >> When I select a field to edit, for example to replace a > >> "Part Number" field from AAA to BBB, when I type in BBB > >> but instead of hitting enter, I click on the next field > >> below it which belongs to another part, then BBB > >> modifies that part's field instead of where the editing > >> took place. > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Oliver Walters > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> The "Description" field should be showing the > >> description of each symbol as it appears in the .dcm > >> file. It was working for me - do your symbols not > >> have those descriptions? > >> > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Fabrizio Tappero > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Guys, > >> great ! you guys almost fixed it. It looks like > >> the column "Description" appears twice and one > >> of the two is completely empty. > >> > >> cheers > >> Fabrizio > >> > >> > >> > >> Inline image 1 > >> > >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Wayne > >> Stambaugh <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Oliver, > >> > >> I committed your patch. Thank you. > >> > >> Wayne > >> > >> On 5/22/2017 10:08 AM, Oliver Walters wrote: > >> > Bug noted here - > >> https://lists.launchpad.net/ > kicad-developers/msg29485.html > >> <https://lists.launchpad.net/ > kicad-developers/msg29485.html> > >> > > >> > Patch attached to this email fixes glitch > >> when user adds custom field > >> > with same name as a default field. > >> > > >> > Users can now do this to their heart's > >> content. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ______________________________ > _________________ > >> > Mailing list: > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > Post to : > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:kicad-developers@ > lists.launchpad.net> > >> > Unsubscribe : > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> > More help : > >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > > >> > >> ______________________________ > _________________ > >> Mailing list: > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:kicad-developers@ > lists.launchpad.net> > >> Unsubscribe : > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : > >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : > >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : > >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future > >> Those who look only to the past or the present are > >> certain to miss the future [JFK] > >> > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Live Long and Prosper, > >> Andrey > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future > >> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain > >> to miss the future [JFK] > >> > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Live Long and Prosper, > >> Andrey > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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