Hi Oliver, How would I realize that? "Description" field does not appear in the schematic component properties window. Maximum freedom to add all fields the user wants should, I think, be imperative. btw, all description field content coming from .dcm is actually empty in all my schematics.
cheers Fabrizio On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Oliver Walters < [email protected]> wrote: > Cirilo, > > I think the major issue here is that I introduced a previously > invisible-to-the-user field called "Description" which is lifted from the > .dcm file. Fabrizio had a custom field called "Description" as he did not > know that this other field existed. > > Just as people would not have a custom field called "Footprint", I think > that once people realize that the "Description" field is inherent to the > symbol itself, they will rename such custom fields to something else. > > > > Also, I note that there seems to be a duplication of fields already - > there's a "Datasheet" field and a "Documentation" field, one lives in the > .dcm file and one in the .lib file. This seems to be much more of a source > of confusion to me. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Cirilo Bernardo < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Wayne Stambaugh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On 5/23/2017 4:17 AM, Fabrizio Tappero wrote: >> >> cheers Oliver, >> >> I do not know what a .dcm file is. >> >> >> >> I am not sure it is a good idea to have a in-built field called >> >> Description in the table viewer. But I can easily see how that is >> >> useful. I guess you would like to use this table to add info. This >> makes >> >> it non a table viewer. The current icon label says "Component table >> >> view" which I find ambiguous. Maybe Wayne can jump in with a proper >> name >> >> for it. >> > >> > The component information strings are not fields. They are part of the >> > component definition and are not user definable. There are four >> > component information definitions: name, description, key words (tags), >> > and documentation file name. You could create fields with the same >> > names so I can understand how this could be confusing. >> > >> > Toolbar button tooltips should be a verb followed by a short >> > description. In this case "Edit component properties" would work. >> > >> >> Perhaps the software should (re)assign the names of the first 4 fields and >> use a 2-part name to distinguish them from anything else? Maybe a special >> character at the front of the name would be enough - let's say '@'. That >> shouldn't look too ugly and it's unlikely someone would begin a field name >> with '@' (or some other suitable character). At any rate, if the user can >> give an arbitrary field > 4 a name which happens to match a name of one >> of the first 4 fields, we need some scheme so that users (and machines!) >> can distinguish the special fields. >> >> - Cirilo >> >> >> >> >> I am having the feeling the development of this table did not come from >> >> a clean plan of having an XYZ tool. Or maybe is just me. Please dont >> get >> >> me wrong, I love this table (and the soon to come new icon) but it >> might >> >> be a good idea to drop the word viewer for it if we want the (great) >> >> ability to edit stuff. >> >> >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Fabrizio >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Oliver Walters >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Fabrizio, >> >> >> >> 1. You have added a custom field called "Description". >> >> 2. The table viewer has an "inbuild" field called "Description". It >> >> populates this field with the component description which is found >> >> in the .dcm files >> >> >> >> Here's what I see. >> >> >> >> Inline image 1 >> >> >> >> Here I have added the custom "description" field with dummy data to >> >> only one component. >> >> >> >> The first "Description" column is filled with the symbol >> >> descriptions from the .dcm files in the library. >> >> >> >> If you are missing the .dcm files then your first column will be >> empty. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Fabrizio Tappero >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> not sure I understand the question. This is what my schematic >> >> components fields look like: >> >> >> >> Inline image 1 >> >> >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> Fabrizio >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Previous bug even works without modifying a field, all I >> >> have to do is enter a field edit mode and click somewhere >> >> else, and that field's value will be copied to where ever I >> >> clicked, this will cause a lot of grief when users decide >> to >> >> cancel editing and click elsewhere to discard changes, or >> so >> >> they think that's what should have happened. >> >> >> >> >> >> A few more things: >> >> 1. When I click Apply changes, the RED markings/modified >> >> fields should disappear when the changes have been >> >> successfully applied >> >> 2. Undo/Redo should work inside Component Table to undo >> each >> >> user action, instead of having the user to discard all >> >> changes and start over >> >> 3. There's something weird going on when you try to edit a >> >> field, it seems that have to click 4 times to enter edit >> >> mode, 2 times is what I expect. Also perhaps some weird >> >> delay that prevents me from entering edit mode. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Andrey Kuznetsov >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Oliver, found another unexpected behaviour. >> >> When I select a field to edit, for example to replace a >> >> "Part Number" field from AAA to BBB, when I type in BBB >> >> but instead of hitting enter, I click on the next field >> >> below it which belongs to another part, then BBB >> >> modifies that part's field instead of where the editing >> >> took place. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Oliver Walters >> >> <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> The "Description" field should be showing the >> >> description of each symbol as it appears in the >> .dcm >> >> file. It was working for me - do your symbols not >> >> have those descriptions? >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Fabrizio Tappero >> >> <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> great ! you guys almost fixed it. It looks like >> >> the column "Description" appears twice and one >> >> of the two is completely empty. >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> Fabrizio >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Inline image 1 >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Wayne >> >> Stambaugh <[email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Oliver, >> >> >> >> I committed your patch. Thank you. >> >> >> >> Wayne >> >> >> >> On 5/22/2017 10:08 AM, Oliver Walters >> wrote: >> >> > Bug noted here - >> >> https://lists.launchpad.net/k >> icad-developers/msg29485.html >> >> <https://lists.launchpad.net/ >> kicad-developers/msg29485.html> >> >> > >> >> > Patch attached to this email fixes glitch >> >> when user adds custom field >> >> > with same name as a default field. >> >> > >> >> > Users can now do this to their heart's >> >> content. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _____________________________ >> __________________ >> >> > Mailing list: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> > Post to : >> >> [email protected] >> >> <mailto:kicad-developers@list >> s.launchpad.net> >> >> > Unsubscribe : >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> > More help : >> >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> > >> >> >> >> _____________________________ >> __________________ >> >> Mailing list: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> Post to : >> >> [email protected] >> >> <mailto:kicad-developers@list >> s.launchpad.net> >> >> Unsubscribe : >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> More help : >> >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________ >> __________________ >> >> Mailing list: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> Post to : >> >> [email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Unsubscribe : >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> More help : >> >> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list: >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> Post to : [email protected] >> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Unsubscribe : >> >> https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> <https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers> >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> <https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future >> >> Those who look only to the past or the present are >> >> certain to miss the future [JFK] >> >> >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Live Long and Prosper, >> >> Andrey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Remember The Past, Live The Present, Change The Future >> >> Those who look only to the past or the present are certain >> >> to miss the future [JFK] >> >> >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Live Long and Prosper, >> >> Andrey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> Post to : [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > Post to : [email protected] >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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