Yes, I will definitely keep wire-to-bus entries, they are important for the new connectivity algorithm as well. I mainly want to remove bus-to-bus entries so that it is easier to clarify the documentation about how to use wire-to-bus entries.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:52 AM jp charras <[email protected]> wrote: > Le 25/03/2019 à 14:38, Wayne Stambaugh a écrit : > > I'm guessing drawing 45 degree lines in the new toolframe wouldn't be > > too difficult to implement. > > Be careful: > Bus to bus entries are mainly for aesthetic purposes. > However wire to bus entries are not equivalent to wires: they do not > connect wires between them. > Replacing them by wires can create (in some cases) unwanted connections. > > > > > On 3/25/2019 9:29 AM, Jon Evans wrote: > >> By the way, I think one reason people use these is because they want a > >> 45-degree bus wire for aesthetic reasons. > >> I think a better wire-placing tool in Eeschema is already on the roadmap > >> -- if we can support 45-degree lines natively, it would meet that demand > >> without a special type of object. > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:27 AM Jon Evans <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I'm okay with that if the rest of the core team is also :-) > >> Sometimes you have to break workflows to move forward and make > >> things easier for new users. > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:08 AM Wayne Stambaugh > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Jon, > >> > >> I don't have any issues with this although you may get some push > >> back > >> from some users who are resistant to change. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Wayne > >> > >> On 3/19/2019 9:37 PM, Jon Evans wrote: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > One of the things I want to clean up in the UX after the bus / > >> > connectivity upgrades I've done are merged is to remove > >> Bus-Bus Entries > >> > from the design toolset. > >> > > >> > Why? > >> > > >> > 1) They aren't actually useful or meaningful (they are just > >> graphical at > >> > this point). If you want to branch off bus wires from each > >> other, just > >> > use junctions like normal wires. > >> > > >> > 2) They are confusing. I've heard this from several users, > >> because they > >> > look and sound a lot like Bus-Wire Entries, which are useful. > >> > > >> > What about old designs? > >> > > >> > My proposal is to just remove the tools to allow placement of > new > >> > Bus-Bus Entries without removing the underlying code to handle > >> them. > >> > Existing designs would still load and render properly. > >> > > >> > In theory we could make some kind of migration to remove them > and > >> > replace with direct bus wire connections, but I'm not sure > that's > >> > necessary. > >> > > >> > As long as we do a good job of documenting the way to use > >> busses under > >> > the new system, and update the example schematics accordingly, > >> I think > >> > new users will be set on the right path. We could include a > >> note about > >> > this on the blog / forums to let existing users know (although > >> from what > >> > I can tell, only a small fraction of existing users use them > >> in the > >> > first place). > >> > > >> > Any concerns with this? > >> > > >> > Jon > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> > Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> Post to : [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > Post to : [email protected] > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > Jean-Pierre CHARRAS > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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