I have done 5 boards with Kicad. 4 of them were small two sided boards for test fixtures and after having them made all was well. The autorouter worked OK for what I was doing. The last board I did was a 8 layer board and the autorouter worked ok for the most part. There was still alot of cleanup and hand routing but no more than usual. I did this design in Kicad more as an experiment than anything else as the final design was done using Mentor Graphics Expedition with Design View as the schematic capture. Obviously the mentor graphics tool is set up for manufacturing with all the bells and whistles for doing production boards. But has a hefty price upfront and a large maintenance fee. So, all things considered I would say Kicad solves just about all my small design needs. For large commercial design needs it does fall alittle short but I don't think that is what Kicad is trying to be. It appears from the documentation and the web site it was created for the use at a university and therefore not made for larger commercial designs. If the intent is for a fully functional commercial grade package it has a ways to go yet. Therefore if your design needs are small run and/or not very complex Kicad will do all you need. If your in a large commercial environment or your designs are large and complex needing strict signal integrity and various package types i.e. (BGA's, SMD, and Through-hole all in the same design) Kicad is not ready for prime time. Kicad is now and will continue to be my package of choice for small stuff. If you want a full blown package get ready to pull out your wallet. Most full blown packages have price tags in the Thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars and frankly about 80% of the bell and whistles are useless or are never used. I don't know if there is a thing about free software but I would be happy to give a tithing to whoever is maintaining Kicad for there efforts.
 
AndyE 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Novak
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [kicad-users] kicad status/usability?

I've not created a board with Kicad yet, but from the tutorial, I think it will do everything that I need.
 
These are not showstoppers for me, but a couple items that seem to be missing are rectangular hole pads and cutouts. At least I haven't discovered how to make it happen and no one has answered my questions concerning those topics.
 
One design-for-manufacturing feature missing is the ability to define a clearance region for each part and have that clearance checked by the DRC.
 
For me, these issues are minor. So far, I have been extremely impressed with Kicad and plan to use it to design proffessional boards. Thank you to the author! This tool is great and I see it only getting better.
 
David


From: greg temple [mailto:greg_[EMAIL PROTECTED]com.au]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 8:15 AM
To: kicad-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [kicad-users] kicad status/usability?

Hello,
I'm just wondering what is the current status of kicad is?  Is it reasonably usable for multilayer boards?. Is there any lists anywhere that show its currently usability status for doing real boards(without having to do crazy things or having crazy bugs) or any major holdups on necesary features?.
Anyone have some comments?
Thanks in advance
Greg

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