----- Original Message ----
From: Wirabudiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 8:32:01 AM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WRA anu BUDIMAN
Katampi...sun. .., disuhun di dung-dung eta seratan
Ambu, kang Firman Raharja, katampi pisan.
Serata dina milis ieu, sapalihna kusimkuring di
simpen dina Blog : http://sukapura. wordpress. com
janten upami aya tambihan/pendapat katerangan
ngenaan sebatan Raden, urang di kempelkeun, kantenan upami aya referensinamah
langkusng sae.
mangga kanu sanesna,...
Hatur nuhun, rampes...
baktos,
AW
----- Original Message -----
From: richadiana kartakusuma
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WiRA anu
BUDIMAN
Ieu mah mung kaleresan nu ku abdi katampi...tapi duka kaango henteu na mah teu
langkung, nyanggakeun wae kana pangersa
sayaktosna mah Wetan sareng Kulon dina nganggo elar ka-Menak-an teu benten,
mung saukur ku beda nyebat wae. Upamina di prasasti2 nu ti Wetan sadayana
bangsawan utamina Mataram Kuno (nu diluluguan ku karuhun Sanjaya "Senna" ti
Galuh= Ciamis) sok dipayunan ku gelarv "Rakryan - Rakarayan = Rakai" > tina ra
- ka- raya - an ; upami dina naskah2 Sunda buhun rakryan teh disebat "Rakean"
Salah sawios buktos (conto):
1) Sanjaya dina prasasti ti Mataram disebat Rakai Mataram Sang Sanjaya;
Sanjaya dina Sunda Buhun disebat Rakean Jambri = Ra hiyang Sanjaya
2) Ciung Wanara alias Manarah = Rakean Manarah (di Sunda buhun) = Rakai Manara
dina prasasti ti wetan...dst.
3) Gelar "Rahadyan" mah kaayeunakeun > sami keneh hartosna mung nyaeta seueur
dianggo ku Urang Wetan> teras ka kulonkeun saatos Abad ka -17 Masehi tea
(Sultan Agung). Tapi di salah sawios we2ngkon Sunda (hilap deui mung
disebatkeun teh ku Kang Yunan Buana ) > rehna di we2ngkon anjeuna "menak2"
teh disebatna "Tohaan" . Gelar ieu teh di Sunda mah dilarapkeun kangge raja
diantawisna Tohaan di Sunda (Tarusbawa)
4) aya oge anu disebat "daleum - dalem" sami sareng di wetan hartosna
kulakadang istana keneh mung istilahna "jero"
Mung nguningkeun wae....hapunten bilih lpat
Tabe pun ti abdi nu bodo
Ambu Wirumananggay
----- Original Message ----
From: Wirabudiman <wirabudiman- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ac.id>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 4:29:51 PM
Subject: [kisunda] Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL
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From: firman raharja
Date: 7/6/2008 2:02:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL
Punten mairan bari nyalenggor sakedik
Asana mah raden (=rahadian) the geus dipake Ku menak it wetan it baheula keneh
Dina carita (sajarah) ngeunaan Dewa Niskala, disebutkeun yen manehna the
Nulungan "Raden Baribin" anu kabur ka galuh pedah karajaanna (majapahit?) di
buburak
Jadi can aya hubungan jeung panjajah
Saterusna nurutkeun kuring mah raden (di sunda)
Mangrupakeun pangaruh /budaya it wetan
Anu mahabu di sunda sanggeus sunda kapangaruhan Ku mataram
Nyaeta sumedang saeunggeus jaman suriadiwangsa (Rangga Gempol)
Panginten
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Sae-sae, nambihan sajarahna rada ka palih luhur....nuhun. .nuhun kana
panambihna.
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