palayna mah ningali... tapi keun we ari ulaheun mah.... ngantosan we ah --- On Tue, 20/1/09, ilen kardani <[email protected]> wrote:
From: ilen kardani <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [kisunda] elmu modern (urut getih) To: [email protected] Received: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 5:57 AM Enya moal ditembongkeun atuh, jeung teu meunang di ucah aceh barina oge, ngan ukur nyumponan nu hayang nyaho wungkul atawa keur studi banding, antep we nu teu nyahoeun mah sina linglung da moal ngarugikeun, lajengkeun we nganggap mitosna kanu dongeng anu diserat tipayun. Emut henteu jaman Suharto nembe ngadeg presiden?... .Sakabeh photo Bung Karno kudu diduruk, rahayat teu meunang nyimpen photo anjeuna bisi dihukum, tapi aya we hiji-hijieun nu nyimpen peperenian keur tembongkeuneun ari perlu, tapi moal ditembongkeun ka pulisi da pasti ditewak jeung photona diduruk. Hiji waktu mah kampanyeuna teh make akon-akon, "sing saha anu boga photo Bung Karno bakal di beuli mahal", atuh loba anu tijalikeuh kataji ku pangbibita. Tapi teu saeutik oge anu henteu kabawa ku sakaba-kaba.. At 01:41 PM 1/20/2009, Halimun An wrote: tah tah tah serius yeuh.... husus soal siliwangi, pajajaran... mana buktosna ? mana kitabna ? kunaon carita perkawis raja eta pabaliut ? aya nu ka kidul, ka wetan, ka kulon ka kaler? janten mana dongeng siliwangi nu enya na ? pami aya bukti tulisan dongeng siliwangi nu ditulis jaman harita, nembe uing percanten yen siliwangi/pajajaran teh sanes ngan ukur mitos... ari teu acan aya mah nya uing nganggap eta mitos we... pami aya dongeng siliwangi/pajajaran nu ditulis di taun 1700 an misalna, atawa nu ditulis ku karajaan2 lain, uing tetep nganggap eta mah dongeng.. da pasti aya kapentingan nu nulisna... adil pan hehehehehe --- On Tue, 20/1/09, ilen kardani <i...@kuala-lumpur. oilfield. Slb.Com> wrote: From: ilen kardani <i...@kuala-lumpur. oilfield. Slb.Com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] elmu modern (urut getih) To: kisu...@yahoogroups .com, kisu...@yahoogroups .com Received: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 5:00 AM Tah ari kitu mah teu adil atuh, nembongkeun bukti tina tulisan wungkul da ari bukti fisik na mah teu aya. Sami wae sareng anu tipayun dipungkir, boh kajayaan Sunda, Prabu Siliwangi, Pajajaran, Sangkuriang, Malin Kundang, Situ Bagendit.... ..jrrd, aya dina kitab. At 12:02 PM 1/20/2009, Halimun An wrote: ah teu kitu kulan, tetep we peryogi ningal ka tukang sakali2 mah jang picontoeun, tapi nu jelas katulis dina kitab nu bebas tina kapentingan jalma.... Aya saena henteu percaya kanu carita baheula (legenda) ngarah salawasna ningal kahareup (legenda/dongeng mun euweuh bukti tertulis, ari nu aya bukti tertulismah misalna na kitab(jabur, taurat, injil, Qur'an) percaya we, keur kamajuan. Tapi omat kedah jujur tur konsisten, ulah pilih-pilih, teu meunang percaya oge kana sagala rupa legenda/dongeng boh nu asal ti Sunda atawa ti bangsa deungeun. Conto nu kaasup legenda (anu 'ulah' dipercaya da teu puguh buktina): - Sagala rupa dongeng feng shui, horoskop, astrology, mujarobat (teu aya na kitab) - Siklus sajarah 500 atawa 700 taun (teu aya na kitab) - Dongeng caah sakuliah dunya (aya na kitab, nabi nuh) - Dongeng bibit jelema nu asalna ti saurang (aya na kitab, nabi adam) - Dongeng alam gaib (aya na kitab, alam kubur, alam akherat) - Dongeng jelema hirup ratusan taun (teu apal) - Dongeng iteuk meulah laut (aya na kitab, nabi musa) - Dongeng manusa bisa hiber (aya na kitab, isra mi'raj nabi muhammad saw) - Dongeng budak euweuh bapaan (aya na kitab, nabi isa) - Dongeng nyiuk cai ku ayakan (teu apal) - Dongeng ngadu oray (aya na kitab, nabi musa) - Dongeng orok nyieun sumur (aya na kitab, nabi ismail) - Dongeng jelema ragrag ti sawarga (aya na kitab, adam-hawa) - Dongeng jelema kawin jeung jurig (aya na kitab, nabi suleman) - Dongeng Hercules (teu apal) - Dongeng balap nyabut iteuk (teu apal) - Dongeng jelema teu teurak diduruk (aya na kitab, nabi ibrohim) Jadi ari dongeng sunda, pajajaran, siliwangi nu dianggap leungit mah, memang teu aya bukti yen carita eta bener, alias ngan ukur dongeng. komo soal maung bodas, loreng/lodaya, hideung mah.. jauh tina logika... hhhhhhhh --- On Mon, 19/1/09, ilen kardani <i...@kuala-lumpur. oilfield. Slb..Com> wrote: From: ilen kardani <i...@kuala-lumpur. oilfield. Slb.Com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] elmu modern (urut getih) To: kisu...@yahoogroups .com Received: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 2:54 PM Dulur, Aya saena henteu percaya kanu carita baheula (legenda) ngarah salawasna ningal kahareup, keur kamajuan. Tapi omat kedah jujur tur konsisten, ulah pilih-pilih, teu meunang percaya oge kana sagala rupa legenda/dongeng boh nu asal ti Sunda atawa ti bangsa deungeun. Conto nu kaasup legenda (anu 'ulah' dipercaya da teu puguh buktina): - Sagala rupa dongeng feng shui, horoskop, astrology, mujarobat - Siklus sajarah 500 atawa 700 taun - Dongeng caah sakuliah dunya - Dongeng bibit jelema nu asalna ti saurang - Dongeng alam gaib - Dongeng jelema hirup ratusan taun - Dongeng iteuk meulah laut - Dongeng manusa bisa hiber - Dongeng budak euweuh bapaan - Dongeng nyiuk cai ku ayakan - Dongeng ngadu oray - Dongeng orok nyieun sumur - Dongeng jelema ragrag ti sawarga - Dongeng jelema kawin jeung jurig - Dongeng Hercules - Dongeng balap nyabut iteuk - Dongeng jelema teu teurak diduruk - jsb At 07:29 PM 1/19/2009, you wrote: hahahahahaha bener bener pisan ua.... ngaku2 urang sunda padahal sunda mah legenda.. cenah ceuk cenah.... da uing mah teu percaya sunda kungsi jaya oge.. kanyataana we ayeuna jiga kumaha ?... sunda mah sarua we jiga betawi jsb, ukur aya basa sunda... ari bangsa sunda mah ngan ukur dongeng dongengek... . aya nu ngaributkeun siliwangi, pajajaran jsb.... hehehehehe eta mah pan dongeng, sarua jeung dongeng sangkuriang, malin kundang, situ bagendit... mun hayang apal, tinggal ka gramedia atawa toko gunung agung.. tah aya dongen kahebatan sunda. tapi inget eta ukur dongeng.. hhhhhhhhh cape --- On Mon, 19/1/09, ua duq <dudi.herlianto@ gmail.com> wrote: From: ua duq <dudi.herlianto@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] elmu modern (urut getih) To: kisu...@yahoogroups .com Received: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 11:07 AM enya urang... ngaku urang sunda bari nu diaku-akuna geus euweuh tingal ngaran :( On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Halimun An < halimun...@yahoo. com> wrote: saha nu ngaku2 ua ? ngan uing mah yakin we ayeuna periode sunda nu rek manggung. eta mah hukum alam.. skenario global.. dihalangan oge moal bisa... uing mah pengamat lain pelaku (da embung cape hehehehe) --- On Mon, 19/1/09, ua duq < dudi.herlianto@ gmail.com> wrote: From: ua duq < dudi.herlianto@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kisunda] elmu modern (urut getih) To: kisu...@yahoogroups .com Received: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:17 AM tapi iraha? kudu geuwat geuwat bisi kaburu beak nu wani ngaku-ngaku na hahaha..... 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